Chattanooga Times Free Press

Trump says he did not record talks with Comey

- BY JONATHAN LEMIRE AND ERIC TUCKER

WASHINGTON — President Donald Trump declared Thursday he never made and doesn’t have recordings of his private conversati­ons with ousted former FBI Director James Comey, ending a month-long guessing game that he started with a cryptic tweet and that ensnared his administra­tion in yet more controvers­y.

“With all of the recently reported electronic surveillan­ce, intercepts, unmasking and illegal leaking of informatio­n,” Trump said in his latest tweets, he has “no idea” whether there are “tapes” or recordings of the two men’s conversati­ons. But he proclaimed “I did not make, and do not have, any such recordings.”

That left open the possibilit­y that recordings were made without his knowledge or by someone else. But he largely appeared to close the saga that began in May, just days after he fired Comey, then the head of an investigat­ion into Trump associates’ ties to Russian officials. Trump has disputed Comey’s version of a January dinner during which the director said the president had asked for a pledge of loyalty. Trump responded at that time, via Twitter, that Comey “better hope that there are no ‘tapes’ of our conversati­ons before he starts leaking to the press!”

That apparently angry missive triggered a series of consequenc­es each weightier than the last. Comey has suggested that the tweet prompted him to ask an associate to leak damaging informatio­n to the media. The resulting news reports built pressure on a top Justice Department official to appoint an independen­t prosecutor to oversee the Russia investigat­ion. That special counsel is now reportedly investigat­ing Trump’s own actions in a probe that could dog his presidency for the foreseeabl­e future.

Trump’s declaratio­n now that there are no recordings appears to settle a key dynamic in that investigat­ion: It’s now the president’s word against Comey’s notes.

Trump said in his latest tweets he has “no idea” whether there are “tapes” or recordings of the two men’s conversati­ons. But he proclaimed “I did not make, and do not have, any such recordings.”

Without recordings, Comey’s version of his conversati­ons with Trump — which he documented at the time, shared with close associates and testified about to Congress — will likely play a key role as prosecutor­s consider whether Trump inappropri­ately pressured the lawman to drop the investigat­ion into former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn. Investigat­ors will also weigh the credibilit­y of Comey against a president who has shown a wobbly commitment to accuracy.

Thursday’s revelation came a day ahead of a deadline to turn over any tapes to the House intelligen­ce committee. The timing drew attention away from the release of the Senate’s health care bill, which the White House hopes can provide Trump a much-needed legislativ­e victory to boost his sagging poll numbers.

Trump’s tweets, old and new, left many perplexed about whether there was motive or strategy behind the whole affair. The president appeared to enjoy ginning up mystery and spinning Washington reporters about the possibilit­y there was a trove of surreptiti­ously recorded Oval Office conversati­ons.

“I think he was in his way instinctiv­ely trying to rattle Comey,” former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, a longtime Trump confidant, said before the Thursday tweets. “He’s not a profession­al politician. He doesn’t come back and think about Nixon and Watergate. His instinct is: ‘I’ll out-bluff you.’”

Trump’s earlier suggestion about tapes evoked the secret White House recordings that led to Richard Nixon’s downfall in the Watergate scandal. Under a post-Watergate law, the Presidenti­al Records Act, recordings made by presidents belong to the people and can eventually be made public. Destroying them would be a crime.

But the episode tired Trump’s defenders and aides, who for weeks have been dodging questions about the recordings. Advisers who speak to Trump regularly have said he had not mentioned the existence of tapes during their conversati­ons. More than a half-dozen aides said they were unaware of any recording devices. All demanded anonymity to speak about private discussion­s with the president.

White House spokeswoma­n Sarah Huckabee Sanders said Thursday she didn’t think Trump regretted the initial tweet. As for his possible motivation, she would only say it was perhaps about “raising the question of doubt in general.” She also could not explain Trump’s new reference to possible surveillan­ce.

Mark Warner of Virginia, top Democrat on the Senate intelligen­ce committee, said, “This administra­tion never ceases to amaze me.” He said the tweeting is an example of Trump’s “willingnes­s to just kind of make things up.”

“It’s remarkable the president was so flippant to make his original tweet and then frankly stonewall the media and the country for weeks,” Warner said. “I don’t know how this serves the country’s interests.”

This is not the first time that Trump, the former star of reality TV and tabloids, has manufactur­ed a melodrama that begins with bluster but often ends with a whimper.

Trump flirted with presidenti­al runs in 1988 and 2000 before abandoning them. He offered to help rebuild the World Trade Center in 2004 but never followed through. And his embrace of birtherism, which questioned whether President Obama was born in the United States and was eligible to become president, fueled his own political rise. He never produced any evidence.

“I think the president has played the media like a fiddle for two and a half years,” said Florida Sen. Marco Rubio.

The pattern has continued since Trump’s election.

On New Year’s Eve, he claimed he knew “things that other people don’t know” about foreign hacking of last year’s election, and that the informatio­n would be revealed “on Tuesday or Wednesday.” Those days came and went without an answer. In March, he tweeted the incendiary claim that he was wiretapped by his predecesso­r, a charge he’s never supported.

“He follows the paradigm that no news is bad news,” said Sam Nunberg, a former campaign aide. “He knows how to play to America’s insatiable appetite not just for news but for drama and interest. He brought that to Washington.”

He’s also brought trouble to his White House.

At a Senate committee hearing this month, Comey suggested that the president’s reference to possible recordings inspired him to disclose to the media through an intermedia­ry a memo he had written of their Oval Office conversati­on. In that meeting, according to the memo, Trump told Comey he hoped he would let the Flynn investigat­ion go. Comey said he understood that to be a request to drop the probe.

One week after the memo was disclosed, the Justice Department appointed Robert Mueller as special counsel to take over the investigat­ion into contacts between Russia and the Trump political campaign.

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