Daniel Dae Kim on ‘Asian Americans’
In late March, actor Daniel Dae Kim posted a video on Instagram revealing that he had tested positive for COVID-19. Back then Kim, best known for memorable roles on “Lost” and “Hawaii Five-0,” was one of the early well-known carriers of the coronavirus, having potentially contracted it while filming his NBC medical drama, “New Amsterdam,” in New York City. He documented his recovery online while most Americans were just beginning to comprehend the impact of the pandemic.
Since then, Kim has felt close to normal, despite some lingering effects — the occasional disappearance of his senses of smell and taste, some issues with focus. He has continued to be active in the fight against the virus and its fallout, donating his plasma, raising money for health care professionals, and condemning the anti-Asian xenophobia and attacks that have been on the rise in the age of the coronavirus.
“I don’t necessarily see my activity as a responsibility,” Kim said in an interview. “My only goal was to be informative and helpful for those who were fearful or had no reference point.”
Kim, though, was largely uninterested in talking about himself during a recent Zoom call. Instead, he wanted to discuss “Asian Americans,” the new documentary series he narrates with actress Tamlyn Tomita. Premiering Monday on PBS, the five-part special is the most ambitious documentary project ever to chronicle the history of the Asian American community. It is arriving with unanticipated relevance, amid the surge of racism toward Asian Americans during the pandemic.
Beginning in the 1850s and continuing to the present, the series covers an expansive arc that has often been ignored within the United States’ self-concept: from Angel Island to the effect of the Filipino American labor movement, from the radical Third World movement to the murder of Vincent Chin in 1982. It is a story of discrimination, marginalization and violence — and an affirmation of a community that persistently rose in the face of hardship.
Kim spoke about the documentary’s lessons for today, what it means to be considered “American,” and what his fight with the coronavirus revealed to him about the country. Here are edited excerpts from the conversation.
Q: A project of this scope has never really existed until now. Why is that?
A: That’s a very loaded question. I think it speaks to our place in American society and how we’ve been perceived up until today and including today. We have been a part of the fabric of this country, and yet we’ve been overlooked relative to other minorities. Though we have worked really hard to assimilate collectively, events that are depicted in this documentary, as well as in the news today, show us that we really aren’t considered as American as most others.
Q: Do you see a parallel between the history that the series documents and what the Asian American community is facing now as a result of the coronavirus?
A: One of the chapters that is most relevant right now is the story of Japanese internment in the 1940s, where American citizens born and raised in this country had their rights stripped away from them, their property taken from them, their businesses confiscated, and were put into essentially prison camps solely based on how they looked. What is amazing to me, whenever I talk about this particular part of our history, is how many people have never heard of it before. When I talk about the 442nd or the 100th battalion, people don’t know what that is. People don’t know that we had Asian Americans fighting for this country as their families were interned.
This documentary chronicles our place in this country and how much a part of it we are, and in that way it’s also a celebration of how American we are. And when we have op-ed pieces about how “American” we should be, even today, it’s a reminder that we’ve been asking these questions throughout American history.
Q: The episode on Japanese American internment told the story of the Uno family. Some of them were soldiers fighting for America in World War II at the same time that America was putting their relatives in camps. Buddy Uno ultimately became a journalist and propagandist in and for Japan, and I felt a complex sense of empathy for him, given how his family was treated. How do you see him?
A: It’s understandable that one would take Buddy’s position. And yet not a single Japanese American was convicted of espionage or treason against the United States. That says so much to me; what will it take for us to be considered American? I think that’s a central question of this documentary, as you see even today elderly Asian Americans being beaten and taunted in the midst of this virus.
Q: You mentioned op-eds about that central question. Andrew Yang was recently criticized for his column calling on Asian Americans to show their
“Americanness” amid the crisis. What’s your reaction to this idea?
A: It is important for every American to be proud of their country and to do whatever they can to be the best “American” that they can. But no one should have to prove that they’re American. The same standard should apply to everyone, regardless of what color their skin is and what religion they follow.
Q: Has the rise in antiAsian racism made you think differently about the documentary’s potential impact?
A: It makes it all the more important that people understand and see that this has happened in the past. There’s that saying about those who forget history are condemned to repeat it — this is a way of hopefully preventing history from repeating itself. The one phrase that I always think about from “Hamilton” is: Are you going to be on the right side of history? As today’s chapter of our nation’s history is being written, which side will we be on? And which side will you be on?
Q: As someone who had the virus, how do you respond to the idea of being blamed, as an Asian American, for the pandemic?
A: Thankfully I haven’t really experienced anything firsthand, person to person. But in sharing my experience with the virus, I exposed myself to the worst of online humanity. It was eye-opening and very discouraging. I firmly believe now that there’s a segment of the population that will forever consider anyone other than them outsiders.
We could use more emphasis on unity. This special is not a way of saying Asian Americans are different and therefore special. It’s really saying, Asian Americans are part of this country’s history and therefore are special.