AT&T says it signed up 4 million HBO Max customers

AT&T reported second-quarter results Thursday, and the numbers showed customer defections across the board, including in its wireless, broadband and satellite TV businesses. But arguably its most anticipated metric was how many people signed up for its new HBO Max streaming service.

The platform, introduced in late May, attracted 4.1 million customers in its first month, the company reported; in comparison, the rival Disney+ signed up 10 million in the first 24 hours. AT&T said it hoped to have 50 million HBO Max and HBO customers by 2025.

To get there, AT&T will need to convert more of its regular HBO customers to HBO Max customers. Over 23.5 million people who pay for regular HBO are able to switch to HBO Max.

AT&T sells two versions of HBO: One is the premium cable network, and the other is the new streaming product. Both cost the same, but HBO Max has much more content.

A key reason behind AT&T’s $85 billion acquisition of Time Warner was to develop a new streaming service, partly to keep AT&T phone subscribers from defecting to rival operators. AT&T offers discounts on HBO Max to some of its phone customers.

AT&T wants people to buy HBO Max or convert their cable account to HBO Max. Because most people get HBO through their cable or satellite provider, AT&T has cut deals with most of them to allow their customers to make the switch.

But that does not mean everyone has. Or can. Amazon, a big outlet for HBO, sells HBO through its Amazon Channels service, but it has not been able to strike a deal with AT&T to convert those people to HBO Max customers. HBO Max customers also cannot watch the service on Amazon’s Fire devices.

AT&T’s chief executive, John Stankey, had some harsh words for Amazon on the earnings call after the report.

“We’ve tried repeatedly to make HBO Max available” on Amazon, he said. “Unfortunately, Amazon has taken an approach of treating HBO Max and its customers differently than how they’ve chosen to treat other services and their customers.”

A representative for Amazon said it did not have a response to Stankey’s comments. At issue are commission fees and customer data, as well as how the apps play across different systems.

Customers may also be confused about HBO versus HBO Max, or may not be aware they can even make the switch — an ongoing marketing challenge for AT&T.

In October, Stankey called it a gauge of the customer’s brain power: “Why wouldn’t you want twice the content for the same price?” he said at the time. But on Thursday’s earnings call he acknowledged the confusion and said, “We still have work to do to educate and motivate” customers to adopt the newer service.

The company’s traditional TV business, including its satellite (formerly known as DirecTV) and online cable platform, saw a net loss of 954,000 customers, a downturn it blamed on lower household spending because of the pandemic. It was a further sign the company could end up selling that business altogether. A combination with the rival

Dish could help both companies, but such a deal would face steep regulatory hurdles.

Elsewhere, AT&T’s wireless division saw a loss of 154,000 customers in its traditional service where people pay a monthly bill. It added about 165,000 new customers to its prepaid plans.

Factoring in resellers and other connected devices like tablets, AT&T now claims 171.4 million total wireless accounts, an 8% increase from last year. The phone giant still has plenty of cash coming in the door, allowing it to pay down its enormous debt and shell out dividends.

Revenue at its HBO division was down 5.2% to $1.6 billion, a result of more people canceling or cutting back their cable and satellite accounts. But AT&T is spending more — costs were up about a third to $1.5 billion — to invest in HBO Max. Content is expensive.