Chicago Sun-Times

Carson won’t promise HUD programs won’t benefit Trump

He says ‘ morals and values’ will drive his decisions

- Eliza Collins

Ben Carson made his pitch to be secretary of Housing and Urban Developmen­t on Thursday but would not promise to keep the department from using programs that might benefit President- elect Donald Trump and his family.

Carson appeared before the Senate Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs Committee.

Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D- Mass., who has been extremely critical of Trump and the potential for conflicts of interest involving his businesses, asked the retired neurosurge­on to “assure me that not a single taxpayer dollar that you get out will financiall­y benefit the presidente­lect or his family.”

Carson wouldn’t give her a “yes” or “no” answer.

“I can assure you that the things that I do are driven by a sense of morals and values and therefore I will absolutely not play favorites for anyone,” he said.

But Warren, looking for specifics, continued to press the point.

“If there happens to be an extraordin­arily good program that’s working for millions of people and it turns out that someone that you’re targeting is going to gain $ 10 from it. Am I going to say ‘ no,’ the rest of Americans can’t have it?” Carson said.

That comment set Warren off on a monologue about Trump’s conflicts but earned praise from North Carolina Republican Sen. Thom Tillis.

He lauded Carson for not getting “pinned down to a yes or no answer.”

“That, my friend, tells me you’re a very honest person,” he said.

Carson did assure the committee, later in the hearing, that he would work to set up a system to report any issues that arise regarding property owned by Trump or his family.

Another tense moment occurred when ranking member Sherrod Brown, D- Ohio, asked Carson whether he supported raising the minimum wage and a rule expanding those covered by overtime that is on hold.

Carson, again, was vague: “My philosophy is that we can increase people’s minimum wages by increasing opportu- nities for them and creating an environmen­t where those opportunit­ies exist rather than artificial­ly trying to change it.”

Still, the hearing was relatively tame. Senators of both parties seemed to accept that he would be confirmed. Some, including Sen. Heidi Heitkamp, D- N. D., were pleased by the prospect.

“You might just be the right guy,” she said.

Carson seemed to reverse, or at least clarify, some of the controvers­ial statements he had made.

The retired neurosurge­on — who had said poverty was a choice and criticized desegregat­ion efforts — told the committee his statements had been taken out of context.

He was questioned about a 2015 column in which he railed against HUD’s program to desegregat­e housing, comparing it to other “failed” government programs.

“I don’t have any problem whatsoever with affirmativ­e action, or at least, integratio­n,” Carson said.

 ?? JACK GRUBER, USA TODAY ?? Ben Carson, nominee to lead Housing and Urban Developmen­t, appears Thursday at his confirmati­on hearing before the Senate Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs Committee.
JACK GRUBER, USA TODAY Ben Carson, nominee to lead Housing and Urban Developmen­t, appears Thursday at his confirmati­on hearing before the Senate Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs Committee.

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