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TOWNS & COUNTRY

Trump, Biden field questions — from a distance, on separate networks — in dueling town halls

- BY JONATHAN LEMIRE, WILL WEISSERT AND DARLENE SUPERVILLE

WASHINGTON — President Donald Trump and Democrat Joe Biden squared off, in a way, Thursday night, their scuttled second debate replaced by dueling televised town halls that showcased striking difference­s in temperamen­t, views on racial justice and approaches to the pandemic that has reshaped the nation.

Trump was defensive about his administra­tion’s handling of the coronaviru­s, which has claimed more than 215,000 American lives, and evasive when pressed about whether he took a required COVID- 19 test before his first debate with Biden. Angry and combative, he refused to denounce the QAnon conspiracy group — and only testily did so on white supremacis­ts.

The president also appeared to acknowledg­e he was in debt and left open the possibilit­y that some of it was owed to a foreign bank. He insisted that he didn’t owe any money to Russia or any “sinister people” and suggested that being $ 400 million in debt was a “very very small percentage” compared with his overall assets.

Biden, appearing nearly 1,200 miles away, denounced the White House’s handling of the virus, declaring that it was at fault for closing a pandemic response office establishe­d by the Obama administra­tion in which he served.

Though vague at times, he acknowledg­ed it was a mistake to support a 1994 crime bill that led to increased Black incarcerat­ion and suggested he finally will offer clarity on his position on expanding the Supreme Court if Trump’s nominee to the bench is seated before Election Day.

Trump, less than two weeks after being diagnosed with COVID- 19, dodged directly answering whether he took a test the day of the Sept. 29 debate, only saying “possibly I did, possibly I didn’t.”

The presidenti­al rivals took questions in different cities on different networks: Trump on NBC from Miami, Biden on ABC from Philadelph­ia. Trump backed out of plans for the presidenti­al faceoff originally scheduled for the evening after debate organizers said it would be held virtually following his COVID- 19 diagnosis.

Trump was Trump. He was loud and argumentat­ive, fighting with the host, Savannah Guthrie, complainin­g about the questionin­g — and eventually saying for the first time that he would honor the results of a fair election, but only after casting an extraordin­ary amount of doubt on the likeliness of fairness.

“And then they talk ’ Will you accept a peaceful transfer,’” Trump said. “And the answer is, ‘ Yes, I will.’ But I want it to be an honest election, and so does everybody else.”

He again sought to minimize revelation­s from a New York Times investigat­ion that he has more than $ 400 million in debt and suggested that reports are wrong that he paid little or no federal income taxes in most years over the past two decades.

“It’s a tiny percentage of my net worth,” Trump said of his reported debt. But he left open the possibilit­y that some of his debt is owed to a foreign bank by saying. “No, I don’t owe Russia money. I owe a very, very small, it’s called mortgages.”

Biden, meanwhile, took a far different, softer, approach with audience questions. The former vice president, who struggled growing up with a stutter, stuttered slightly at the start of the program and at one point squeezed his eyes shut and slowed down his response to clearly enunciate his words. At times his answers droned on.

Dressed in a blue suit and holding a white cloth mask in one hand, the Democratic nominee also brought a small card of notes on stage and referred to it while promising to roll back tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans. He said doing so would save, as he consulted his notes, “let me see … $ 92 billion.”

Biden vowed to say before Election Day whether he will support expanding the number of justices on the Supreme Court if Democrats win the presidency, the Senate and hold the House after November.

He has for weeks refused to answer the question but went further Thursday night. He said, “I’m still not a fan” of expanding the court, but that his ultimate decision depended on how the confirmati­on of Amy Coney Barrett to the Supreme Court “is handled” and “how much they rush this.”

Biden also blasted Trump’s foreign policy, declaring that “‘ America first’ has made ‘ America alone’” and “This president embraces all the thugs in the world.” He turned introspect­ive when asked what it would say if he lost.

“It could say that I’m a lousy candidate, that I didn’t do a good job,” Biden said. “But I think, I hope that it doesn’t say that we’re as racially, ethnically and religiousl­y at odds as it appears the president wants us to be.”

The two men are still scheduled to occupy the same space for a debate for a second and final time next week in Nashville.

 ?? JIM WATSON/ AFP VIA GETTY IMAGES ?? Former Vice President Joe Biden takes part in his ABC town hall in Philadelph­ia.
JIM WATSON/ AFP VIA GETTY IMAGES Former Vice President Joe Biden takes part in his ABC town hall in Philadelph­ia.
 ?? EVAN VUCCI/ AP ?? President Donald Trump sits during a break at his NBC town hall in Miami on Thursday.
EVAN VUCCI/ AP President Donald Trump sits during a break at his NBC town hall in Miami on Thursday.

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