Chicago Sun-Times

Kids are not colorblind, but discussion­s about race can reduce bias, study shows

- BY ESTHER YOON-JI KANG Esther Yoon-Ji Kang is a reporter on WBEZ’s Race, Class and Communitie­s desk.

For years, psychologi­st Sylvia Perry studied bias awareness among adults — how people come to understand their own prejudices toward different social groups.

And then, the Northweste­rn University professor says she set out to answer: “How does this kind of thing develop? How do people come to be bias aware? Could this be happening with children, and might parents play a role in this developmen­t?”

In 2018, Perry began experiment­s in her lab. She brought in nearly 90 white parents and their 8- to 12-year-old children to discuss kid-appropriat­e situations dealing with prejudice and racism — and she measured whether those chats had any effects on the racial biases. The results were clear.

“An overwhelmi­ng majority of them, their data points are showing a reduction [in bias]. It’s a very large effect,” Perry says.

While experts and advocates have long called for open conversati­ons between parents and children about racism, Perry said her study, published recently in the journal Developmen­tal Psychology, demonstrat­es the direct effect of such discussion­s on racial bias. With ongoing efforts throughout the country to ban books on race, and with diversity and equity programs under attack, advocates say conversati­ons on these issues are more important than ever.

Perry conducted the experiment­s on the Evanston campus between 2018 and 2020, just before the pandemic shutdowns. They involved starting with an implicit bias test, which has subjects linking positive and negative words with images of Black and white people. Then, Perry had the parent and child watch animated videos together about white kids interactin­g with Black kids. They discussed the situations before Perry administer­ed the implicit bias test again.

“What parents are saying in the lab can have a direct effect on their kids’ attitude,” Perry says.

The scenarios in the videos range from two friends happily riding the bus together to a white child deliberate­ly kicking a ball at a Black classmate. There are also more subtle situations where, for example, a white student feels uncomforta­ble or nervous around a Black student.

Perry says the largest reductions in bias occurred “when parents and children were discussing subtle examples of prejudice. … We think that one of the reasons this is occurring is because these are the kinds of things that most white children from day to day are more likely to engage in.”

Research on racial attitudes has grown and become more controvers­ial since George Floyd’s murder

While Perry has been studying racial attitudes for more than a decade, she says the 2020 murder of Floyd precipitat­ed an increase in research around the topic.

But there has also been backlash, with parents at school board meetings demanding that classrooms not discuss race and racism, the overturnin­g of affirmativ­e action, and other points of tension around the topic.

Andrew Grant-Thomas is cofounder of the nonprofit EmbraceRac­e, which provides resources for parents, caregivers and educators on how to talk about race. He says the groups pushing back on race are “a minority, but a mobilized minority.”

His group conducted a nationally representa­tive survey of U.S. parents, and Grant-Thomas says the vast majority said “it was very important or extremely important that their kids be educated about race.”

Grant-Thomas says Perry’s study confirms that race-conscious conversati­ons matter.

“The conviction of so many wellmeanin­g people [is that] not talking about race was a way to get to racial fairness,” he says. “The evidence overwhelmi­ngly does not support that.”

Grant-Thomas says parents need to continue such discussion­s for there to be lasting effects, and that talking about race should also be accompanie­d with creating intentiona­l environmen­ts for children.

“In other words, who are your friends? Who are your loved ones? Who do you show affection to?” he says.

For Perry’s part, she hopes to dig into those topics as well. She plans to expand the research by seeing how neighborho­ods and friendship­s can affect children’s biases. There are plans to also open up the study to include other racial groups.

For her, the bottom line is that kids are not colorblind.

“We know that by the age of 3, white children are starting to develop these negative attitudes toward Black children, and that by age 8, a majority of children of color are reporting that they have experience­d discrimina­tion,” Perry says.

 ?? ESTHER YOON-JI KANG/WBEZ PHOTOS ?? Jennifer Tackett and her daughter, Coco Tackett-Kurth, participat­e in a guided discussion on racism and prejudice at Northweste­rn University.
ESTHER YOON-JI KANG/WBEZ PHOTOS Jennifer Tackett and her daughter, Coco Tackett-Kurth, participat­e in a guided discussion on racism and prejudice at Northweste­rn University.
 ?? ?? Northweste­rn University psychologi­st and associate professor Sylvia Perry says, “What parents are saying ... can have a direct effect on their kids’ attitude.”
Northweste­rn University psychologi­st and associate professor Sylvia Perry says, “What parents are saying ... can have a direct effect on their kids’ attitude.”

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