Daily Freeman (Kingston, NY)

Lawyer tries Trump’s argument that flippers should be outlawed

He is not successful and is reprimande­d by the judge

- By Larry Neumeister

A New York defense lawyer wasted no time in trying to use President Donald Trump’s argument that cooperator­s, or flippers, in criminal cases “almost ought to be illegal.”

Kafahni Nkrumah didn’t get very far in his closing argument Thursday when he tried to bring up Trump’s statement to disparage a cooperator who was testifying against his client in a drug case. A judge disallowed it, calling the attempt “out of line.”

“I am not going to permit you to argue here regarding statements made by the president of the United States in a case that has nothing to do with this one,” U.S. District Judge Gregory H. Woods said in a conversati­on with lawyers outside earshot of the jury.

Trump’s remark aired earlier the same day during a “Fox & Friends” interview in which he suggested it should be illegal for people facing prosecutio­n to cooperate with the government in exchange for a reduced sentence.

As for Trump’s comment that the decision by those under legal scrutiny to cooperate “almost ought to be illegal,” the judge said: “As we all know, and as I am going to instruct the jury, it is not illegal.”

Nkrumah’s client, Jamal Russell, was eventually convicted on a drug charge and exonerated on a weapons count. Nkrumah did not return a message seeking comment Tuesday.

The courtroom developmen­t illustrate­d the concern of some lawyers that Trump’s comments and tweets about the criminal justice system were starting to intrude on actual court cases.

“The president is the leader of the country. What he says can have effect and potentiall­y prejudice trials in lots of different ways,” said Carl Tobias, a University of Richmond Law School professor.

In his closing argument, Nkrumah urged jurors to disregard the testimony of a cooperator, saying it wasn’t true.

Then, Nkrumah referenced the financial fraud trial of Trump’s former campaign chairman, Paul Manafort, which relied in part on cooperatin­g witnesses, saying: “You know what’s funny? Yesterday, Manafort was convicted.”

Assistant U.S. Attorney Adam S. Hobson objected and the judge immediatel­y called lawyers into a private conversati­on.

Nkrumah argued, unsuccessf­ully, that Trump’s comments were relevant “because it is concerning cooperator­s and people’s opinions of cooperator­s. ... I believe that the president’s opinion of cooperator­s is just as pertinent as anyone else’s.”

After the jury left the room, the judge reiterated that he rejected Trump’s opinion because “it is a politicall­y charged, polemic issue that need not be introduced into this case.”

Trump went on “Fox & Friends” after his former personal attorney, Michael Cohen, entered a guilty plea to eight felony charges, including violations of campaign finance law for payments made to two women who had alleged affairs with Trump.

Trump told “Fox and Friends” that for “30, 40 years I’ve been watching flippers. Everything’s wonderful and then they get 10 years in jail and they — they flip on whoever the next highest one is, or as high as you can go.”

Trump said cooperator­s “make up things” to get leniency at sentencing and become “a national hero.”

A 2016 report by the U.S. Sentencing Commission found that the majority of more than 10,000 federal defendants who received a reduced sentence from 2009 to 2014 for cooperatin­g with the government were used in drug cases.

Annemarie McAvoy, a former Brooklyn federal and state prosecutor, said cooperator­s are necessitie­s in the American justice system.

“It was inartful at best,” she said of Trump’s remarks. “I’m hoping it was inartful.”

The courtroom developmen­t illustrate­d the concern of some lawyers that Trump’s comments and tweets about the criminal justice system were starting to intrude on actual court cases.

 ?? FOX NEWS VIA AP ?? In this video image released by Fox News, President Donald Trump is interviewe­d for the “Fox & Friends” television program by Ainsley Earhardt, on Aug. 22 at the White House in Washington.
FOX NEWS VIA AP In this video image released by Fox News, President Donald Trump is interviewe­d for the “Fox & Friends” television program by Ainsley Earhardt, on Aug. 22 at the White House in Washington.

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