Cooking and conversation

On his new audio cooking show, chef and author Cal Peternell joins Oscar winners, including Frances McDormand and Alexander Payne, in the kitchen to make a dish and chat

How we cook has changed so much — not just in the quality and intelligence of our appliances, but in the mode we receive recipes. These days, you can use an app to customize a curry with the ingredients you have on hand, or even ask Alexa the best way to make a cauliflower pizza crust.

But what if you could actually hear the onions sizzling, and be entertained while you chop and saute? That’s the idea behind Cooking by Ear, a new audio cooking show hosted by former Chez Panisse executive chef Cal Peternell and sound guru Kristina Loring. After 22 years in the iconic Berkeley, Calif., kitchen, Peternell left Chez Panisse last year to focus on cookbook writing and this podcast, in which he visits the kitchens of famous friends to cook a dish and chat about everything from food and family to poetry and film. Peternell has a warm, lush voice well-suited for podcasts, and Loring’s expertise means every crunch and sizzle comes through crystal-clear.

You cook along in real time, pausing when you need to — and by the end of the show, you have a meal and you know all about Oscar-winning actress Frances McDormand’s cookie plates and why Academy Award-winning screenwriter and director Alexander Payne left film to work in food during the spring of 2015.

In Episode 5, for example, Peternell makes celery gratin with Payne. As I gathered my ingredients and supplies — Peternell and Loring tell you what you need, and there’s always a published list to consult at www.cookingbyear.com

PHOTO COURTESY OF COOKING BY EAR In the third episode of Cooking By Ear, host Cal Peternell makes fattoush with filmmaker Mira Nair. Other guests on the podcast include Oscar winners Frances McDormand and Alexander Payne.