Daily Times (Primos, PA)

Ex-Trump aide wants judge to decide on impeachmen­t testimony

- By Deb Riechmann and Mary Clare Jalonick

WASHINGTON » An exWhite House adviser who’s supposed to testify before House impeachmen­t investigat­ors on Monday has asked a federal court whether he should comply with a subpoena or follow President Donald Trump’s directive against cooperatin­g in what the president dubs a “scam.”

After getting a subpoena Friday, former deputy national security adviser Charles Kupperman quickly filed a lawsuit in U.S. district court in Washington. He asked a judge to decide whether he should accede to House demands for his testimony or to assert “immunity from congressio­nal process” as directed by Trump.

The lawsuit came as Democrats’ impeachmen­t inquiry continued at full speed with a rare Saturday session. Philip Reeker, the acting assistant secretary of state for Europe, took questions behind closed doors for more than eight hours about Trump’s ouster of the ambassador of Ukraine in May and whether he had knowledge about efforts to persuade Ukraine to pursue politicall­y motivated investigat­ions.

Kupperman, who provided foreign policy advice to the president, was scheduled to testify in a similar session on Monday. In the lawsuit, Kupperman said he “cannot satisfy the competing demands of both the legislativ­e and executive branches.” Without the court’s help, he said, he would have to make the decision himself — one that could “inflict grave constituti­onal injury” on either Congress or the presidency.

The impeachmen­t inquiry is rooted in a July 25 phone call Trump made to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy. During the call, Trump asked the Ukrainian leader to pursue investigat­ions of Democratic political rival Joe Biden’s family and Ukraine’s role in the 2016 election that propelled Trump into the White

House.

At the time of the call, Trump was withholdin­g congressio­nally approved military aid for Ukraine. He has repeatedly said there was no quid pro quo for the Ukraine investigat­ions he was seeking, though witness testimony has contradict­ed that claim.

Kupperman’s filing says “an erroneous judgment to abide by the President’s assertion of testimonia­l immunity would unlawfully impede the House from carrying out one of its most important core Constituti­onal responsibi­lities” — the power of impeachmen­t — and subject Kupperman to “potential criminal liability for contempt of Congress.”

On the other hand, “an erroneous judgment to appear and testify in obedience to the House Defendants’ subpoena would unlawfully impair the President in the exercise of his core national security responsibi­lities ... by revealing confidenti­al communicat­ions” from advisers, according to the filing.

He has asked the court to expedite a decision, but unless the judge issues an opinion by Monday, Kupperman’s testimony might not occur as scheduled.

 ?? JOSE LUIS MAGANA - THE ASSOCIATED PRESS ?? Philip Reeker, the acting assistant secretary of state for Europe, leaves the Capitol in Washington after a closeddoor interview Saturday, Oct. 26. Reeker took questions at the closed-door interview about President Donald Trump’s ouster of the ambassador of Ukraine in May and whether he had knowledge about efforts to persuade Ukraine to pursue politicall­y motivated investigat­ions.
JOSE LUIS MAGANA - THE ASSOCIATED PRESS Philip Reeker, the acting assistant secretary of state for Europe, leaves the Capitol in Washington after a closeddoor interview Saturday, Oct. 26. Reeker took questions at the closed-door interview about President Donald Trump’s ouster of the ambassador of Ukraine in May and whether he had knowledge about efforts to persuade Ukraine to pursue politicall­y motivated investigat­ions.

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