Detroit Free Press

Peters, Johnson trade verbal blows at election hearing in DC

- Todd Spangler

U.S. Sens. Gary Peters, D-Mich., and Ron Johnson, R-Wis., traded verbal blows Wednesday at a hearing on election irregulari­ties with Johnson shouting at Peters and calling him a liar over an issue involving President-elect Joe Biden’s son Hunter.

Johnson is the chairman of the Senate Homeland Security and Government­al Affairs Committee. Peters is the committee’s top ranking Democrat.

As the hearing got underway, Johnson said it was important for the Senate to consider evidence of irregulari­ties in the 2020 election, despite the fact that there has not been any evidence of widespread problems. Peters made clear that courts and other officials have rejected claims that irregulari­ties could or should lead to decertifyi­ng results.

At one point in the hearing, Peters questioned Chris Krebs, the former head of election security for the Trump administra­tion, about Russian disinforma­tion attempts in the 2016 election and whether Russia and other foreign adversarie­s were able now to take “advantage of false claims of broad election fraud … where none exist.”

Johnson, when Peters’ comment ended, said it was “galling” to hear Peters talk about Russian disinforma­tion when Peters and others had falsely accused him and U.S. Sen. Charles Grassley, R-Iowa, of “accepting and disseminat­ing Russian disinforma­tion” in an investigat­ion into Biden’s son Hunter that concluded “millions of dollars in questionab­le financial transactio­ns.”

His voice rising, Johnson said recent reports that Hunter Biden is under federal investigat­ion over his taxes — though little more than that fact has been made public — proves they were right about Hunter Biden and he couldn’t sit by and listen to “the lies, the false allegation­s” put out by Democrats.

Peters responded by saying he had “nothing to do” with any report leaked to the press as claimed by Johnson, though he and U.S. Sen. Ron Wyden, D-Ore., released a report in September that called Johnson and Grassley’s Hunter Biden investigat­ion “faulty” and “rooted in a known Russian disinforma­tion effort.”

Interrupti­ng him and jabbing his finger in the air, Johnson shouted at Peters, “You lied repeatedly in the press that I was spreading Russian disinforma­tion and that was an outright lie and I told you to stop lying and you continued to do it.”

Peters responded by saying: “Mr. Chairman, this is not about airing your grievances. I don’t know what rabbit hole you’re running down.”

Peters also charged that Johnson has injected partisansh­ip into committee matters where it doesn’t belong. “This is terrible what you’re doing to this committee,“he said.

Johnson, ignoring him, called on another member to ask a question as Peters threw his hands up in frustratio­n.

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