Forbes

Intelligen­ce Agents

- By Alan Ohnsman and Kenrick Cai

Normally, humans train AI systems to replace them. ASAPP’s software trains customer-service reps to be better humans.

Plus: The year’s top 50 AI startups

Normally, humans train artificial-intelligen­ce systems to replace them.

ASAPP’ s software trains customer-service reps to be better humans.

If you’ve ever felt your blood boil after sitting on hold for 40 minutes before reaching an agent . . . who then puts you back on hold, consider that it’s often even worse on the other end of the line. A customer-service representa­tive for JetBlue, for instance, might have to flip rapidly among a dozen or more computer programs just to link your frequent-flier number to a specific itinerary.

“Imagine that cognitive load, while you have someone screaming at you or complainin­g about some serious problem, and you’re swiveling between 20 screens to see which one you need to be able to help this person,” says Gustavo Sapoznik, 34, the founder and CEO of ASAPP, a New York City–based developer of AI-powered customerse­rvice software.

Sapoznik remembers just such a scene while shadowing a call-center agent at a “very large” company (he won’t name names), watching the worker navigate a “Frankensta­ck” patchwork of software, entering a caller’s informatio­n into six different billing systems before locating it. “That

was an eye-opening moment.”

The problem has only gotten worse during the pandemic. Call centers for banks, finance companies, airlines and service companies are being overrun. Call volumes for ASAPP’s customers have spiked between 200% and 900% since the crisis began, according to Sapoznik. Making call centers work isn’t the sexiest use of cutting-edge AI, but it’s a lucrative one.

According to estimates from Forrester Research, global revenues for call centers are around $15 billion a year. In all, ASAPP has raised $260 million at a recent valuation of $800 million, per data from Pitchbook. Silicon Valley heavy hitters including Kleiner Perkins chairman John Doerr and former Cisco CEO John Chambers are on ASAPP’s board, along with Dave Strohm of Greylock and March Capital’s Jamie Montgomery. Clients include JetBlue, Sprint and satellite TV provider Dish, all of whom who sign up for multiyear contracts contributi­ng to ASAPP’s estimated $40 million in revenue, according to startup tracker Growjo.

ASAPP has drawn this investor interest by flipping AI on its head. For years engineers have perfected artificial intelligen­ce to perform repetitive tasks better than humans. Rather than having people train AI systems to replace them, ASAPP makes AI that trains people to be “radically” more productive.

“Pure automation capabiliti­es are [used] out of an imperative to reflect costs, but at the expense of customer experience. They’ve been around for 20 or 30 years but they haven’t really solved much of the problem,” Sapoznik says. ASAPP’s thinking: “If we can automate half of this thing away, we can get to the same place by making people twice as productive.”

The company is a standout on Forbes’ second annual AI 50 list of up-and-coming companies to watch, rated highly for its use of artificial intelligen­ce as a core attribute by an expert panel of judges. Its focus on using AI to keep humans in the loop is also what sets ASAPP apart, although it’s competing in the same call-center sandbox as fellow AI 50 listees Observe.ai of San Francisco and Cresta, which is chaired by AI legend Sebastian Thrun, the Stanford professor who greenlit Google’s self-driving car program.

ASAPP’s focus is natural language processing and converting speech to text using proprietar­y technology developed by a group led by a founding member of the speech team for Apple’s Siri. Its software then displays suggested responses or relevant resources on a call-center agent’s screen,

minimizing the need to toggle between applicatio­ns. Sapoznik and his engineers also studied the most effective human representa­tives, trying to replicate their expertise into ASAPP software via machine learning. That software then coaches call-center staff on effective ways to respond to customer queries and tracks down critical informatio­n. If a caller asks how to cancel a flight, for example, ASAPP software automatica­lly pulls up helpful documents for the agent to browse. If a customer reads a 16-digit account number, it’s instantly transcribe­d and displayed on the agent’s screen for easy reference.

When things go right, companies using ASAPP technology see the number of calls successful­ly handled per hour increase from 40% to more than 150%. That can mean lower stress for callcenter workers, which in turn reduces the high turnover associated with that line of work.

A licensed pilot with a fondness for classical music who studied math at the University of Chicago, Sapoznik first applied his coding skills to his family’s real estate and financial business in Miami. “I’d been doing some work in investment­s where you build machine-learning product capabiliti­es to trade the markets. The impact there is that there’s a number that goes up or goes down,” he says. Merely making money didn’t excite him.

Sapoznik hopes that optimizing call centers is just a start for ASAPP, which he founded in 2014. He’s actively searching for similar “gigantic-size” business opportunit­ies with “brokenness and tons of interestin­g data.” He thinks ASAPP can do that because it’s built like a research organizati­on—80% of its 300 employees are researcher­s or engineers.

“The exciting thing about ASAPP is not so much what they’re going after now, but whether or not they can go beyond that,” says Forrester analyst Kjell Carlsson. “They, like so many of us, see the incredible potential of [using] natural language processing for augmented intelligen­ce.”

Summarizin­g ASAPP’s potential, Sapoznik draws on his experience as a pilot—in aviation, automation has steadily transforme­d the cockpit. “It’s increased safety from a pretty dramatic perspectiv­e, and it hasn’t gotten rid of pilots yet,” he says. “It’s just taken away chunks of their workloads.”

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ASAPP CEO Gustavo Sapoznik near Bozeman, Montana. The
New Yorker and passionate pilot flew west during the Covid-19 pandemic.
Unbound ASAPP CEO Gustavo Sapoznik near Bozeman, Montana. The New Yorker and passionate pilot flew west during the Covid-19 pandemic.

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