Houston Chronicle Sunday

Staking out the high ground

Dallas pastor wants new daytime talk show to be uplifting and thoughtful

- By David Martindale FORT WORTH STAR-TELEGRAM

T.D. Jakes believes that daytime TV can do better.

“It’s possible to tackle tough issues in a serious way on mainstream television and still make it entertaini­ng,” the Dallas-based pastor, author and entreprene­ur says. “That’s something I want to explore.”

Jakes hopes to give viewers the kind of discussion show that mainstream America is hungry for with the “T.D. Jakes Show,” a talk show that premiered earlier this month. It airs at 2 a.m. Mondays through Fridays on KHOU and at 5 p.m. weeknights on the Oprah Winfrey Network.

Jakes place on the OWN network is fitting as he’s promising content and a tone reminiscen­t of Oprah’s and Dr. Phil’s shows.

“It’s not a celebrity show,” says the leader of The Potter’s House in Dallas, a nondenomin­ational church that’s 30,000 members strong. “There will be times when we have celebritie­s on, but by and large this show will be about ordinary people and their lives and their situations.

“I want to talk about societal ills. I want to talk about relationsh­ips. I want to talk about conflict resolution. I want people to feel like this is a place where they can get answers. I want this to be a place where people can have thoughtful, and civil, discussion­s.”

It will not be a show in which guests angrily yell over one another to the extreme that no one can be heard. Even when an episode addresses a polarizing issue, Jakes says, he’ll see to it that people are respectful of others’ opinions.

“You can turn on the TV nowadays and it almost looks like a barroom brawl,” he says. “Even some of the more prestigiou­s television shows are giving way to the kinds of antics that I don’t want on our show. It doesn’t have to be that way.

“I want it to be where people can be thoughtful and reflective and have the right to their opinions without it turning into something that’s going to be counterpro­ductive to resolution.”

If Jakes hopes to keep making this kind of show, he’ll need viewers to have his back.

“What needs to happen with this show is that the American people need to prove to the television executives that there is a demand for positive, uplifting, solution-oriented programmin­g,” he says. “The problem is not in making it. It’s easy to make it. The issue is going to be who comes to watch it.

“If it is proven there is enough demand, you will see a quick turnaround in the types of shows that go on the air.”

Early indication­s are that T.D. Jakes’ show will find the audience support it needs.

The show got a four-week test run last summer in four cities (Dallas, Atlanta, Minneapoli­s and Cleveland) and performed well enough to get a green light for national syndicatio­n. Meanwhile, feedback from focus groups, Jakes says, has been very encouragin­g.

“I’m guardedly optimistic,” he says. “But I’m the type of person who doesn’t assume success. I expect to work very hard and to earn my stripes.”

For the past month and a half, ever since production got underway, Jakes has been a logging a lot of frequent-flier miles between Dallas and Los Angeles, where the show is based.

There are only so many hours in a day and only so many projects that he can have his hands on.

“I’ve had to let go of some things in order to make this show a priority,” Jakes says. “But I did it because I think our country needs a place to have a conversati­on where the rhetoric is not turned up so loudly. It’s exciting to be able to provide that space.

“And if, at the end of the day, I do my best and I’m not accepted, I can live with that. The thing I cannot live with is to have a great opportunit­y and to reward it with a poor effort.”

“I want to talk about societal ills. I want to talk about conflict resolution. I want people to feel like this is the place where they can get answers.” T.D. Jakes, pastor

 ?? Charley Gallay / Getty Images ?? T.D. Jakes, pastor of Potter’s House in Dallas, says his new program on the OWN network is “not a celebrity show.”
Charley Gallay / Getty Images T.D. Jakes, pastor of Potter’s House in Dallas, says his new program on the OWN network is “not a celebrity show.”

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