Houston Chronicle

‘Our model is unique’

Conn’s CEO says retailer will keep serving those without access to credit and financing through regular channels

- By Mike D. Smith

The Woodlands-based Conn’s expanded into seven additional states over the past year while also tightening credit standards, discontinu­ing items that contribute­d to a stubbornly high delinquenc­y rate and selling off a $1.4 billion consumer loan portfolio that company officials said was dragging down profits.

In 2016, the company expects to keep growing, fueled by the cash freed up by the consumer debt sale.

Norman Miller, who was named Conn’s CEO in September, says he will continue the company’s tradition of serving population­s that wouldn’t have access to credit and financing through regular channels. Miller formerly was president of Sears Automotive and worked with the “unbanked and underbanke­d” — a group that makes up 80 percent of Conn’s customer base — while with DFC Global Corp.

Miller spoke with the Chronicle at corporate headquarte­rs last week. Edited

excerpts follow:

Q: What is an “underbanke­d” customer?

A: There’s about 25 million people that fall into that category that we consider some of our prime customers. ... They exist in every city across the United States and that customer demographi­c is continuing to grow, which makes it very attractive for Conn’s, obviously. And that customer: They’re not at poverty level by any stretch but they typically have a household, two people working in that household, and they live basically paycheck to paycheck, but people don’t participat­e in the banking system because they don’t have disposable income at the end of the day. Even if you have a banking account ... there’s not nearly the level of value in the banking system.

Q: Seems like a risky group.

A: The risk is absolutely higher, but it’s part of the reason our model is unique

and effective. Unlike other companies, we’re not just a retail company ... our credit and our financing business are in house. We don’t outsource. We do all the underwriti­ng, we do all the collection­s and we do that pretty effectivel­y. ... It’s a different mentality from a collection­s standpoint. It’s not a demanding, “We need our $500,” but we’re trying to work with the customer to say, “What do we need to do to help you get current so you can pay your loan off and do business with us in the future?”

Q: Is it a competitiv­e field for unbanked or underbanke­d customers?

A: You’d think so because there’s so many of them. There’s really no one nationally or regionally who does what we do.

Q: In your last quarterly report, your 60-day delinquenc­y rate was 9.2 percent. Is that a healthy figure?

A: Well, we’d always like to get it lower, but long term, we’re looking for our static loss rate to be in the high single digits. When it’s in the high single digits, it’s very effective for us, it tells us we’re underwriti­ng at the right levels and very profitable for us at the end of the day, as well.

(The company reported a 10.2 percent delinquenc­y rate as of the end of October.)

Q: This summer, Conn’s stopped selling gaming software, cameras, tablets. Electronic­s typically do well during the holidays. Was that too soon?

A: The losses we were experienci­ng with those products were such that it just didn’t make sense at the end of the day for us to carry them. Simultaneo­usly, we were significan­tly enhancing our furniture mix as well. (It’s now about 50 to 55 percent of each store.) Within Texas, many know us as an electronic­s and appliance business. But if you go into our newer markets in the Carolinas and Colorado and Las Vegas, they see us as a furniture retailer first. We’ve been aggressive­ly moving into that market because the margins are very good on the products.

Q: I’m sure you’re aware from the customer service standpoint over the years, there’s been criticism. Are there changes coming to how that’s done?

A: We do mystery shops in all of our stores every month. We do video mystery shops where they go in wearing cameras we score and rate it, and we’re very, very focused on it. ... We get the highest ratings from the Better Business Bureau, which not only measures the number of complaints you have but how do you handle them when you do have complaints. I think we put a great deal of resources and energy and effort into customer service. Unfortunat­ely, when you have the hundreds of thousands of customers that we have, sometimes we do fall short or we disappoint someone. And when we have had those instances in the past, I’m not sure we’ve been as reactive and proactive in some of those as possibly we could have or should have.

 ?? Melissa Phillip / Houston Chronicle ?? This Conn’s HomePlus is on the North Freeway. Conn’s is aggressive­ly moving into the furniture market, its CEO says.
Melissa Phillip / Houston Chronicle This Conn’s HomePlus is on the North Freeway. Conn’s is aggressive­ly moving into the furniture market, its CEO says.
 ?? James Nielsen / Houston Chronicle ?? Conn’s CEO Norman Miller says, “We put a great deal of resources and energy and effort into customer service.”
James Nielsen / Houston Chronicle Conn’s CEO Norman Miller says, “We put a great deal of resources and energy and effort into customer service.”
 ?? Melissa Phillip / Houston Chronicle ?? Conn’s is “significan­tly enhancing our furniture mix as well,” its CEO says.
Melissa Phillip / Houston Chronicle Conn’s is “significan­tly enhancing our furniture mix as well,” its CEO says.

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