Trump Jr. sought data on Clinton’s ‘fitness’
President’s son tells panel about reasons for meeting with Russians
WASHINGTON — President Donald Trump’s eldest son told a Senate committee Thursday he’d been open to receiving information about Hillary Clinton’s “fitness, character or qualifications” in a meeting with a Russian lawyer last year.
However, Donald Trump Jr. insisted that neither he nor anyone else he knows colluded with any foreign government during the presidential campaign.
His description of a June 2016 meeting at Trump Tower, delivered in an opening statement at the outset of a closed-door Senate Judiciary Committee staff interview, provided his most detailed account of an encounter that has attracted the attention of congressional investigators and special counsel Robert Mueller.
Talks for 5 hours
It is also the first known instance of Trump Jr. giving his version of the meeting in a setting that could expose him to legal jeopardy. It’s a crime to lie to Congress.
Multiple congressional committees and Mueller’s team of prosecutors are investigating whether the Trump campaign coordinated with Russia to influence the outcome of the election. A grand jury used by Mueller as part of his investigation has already heard testimony about the meeting, which besides Trump Jr., included the president’s sonin-law, Jared Kushner, and his then-campaign chairman, Paul Manafort.
Trump Jr. spoke to the committee for about five hours, leaving midafternoon out of view of reporters. In a statement released afterward, he appeared to suggest he would not testify publicly before the committee.
In July, the committee’s chairman, Republican Chuck Grassley of Iowa, said he wanted Trump Jr. to appear at a public hearing, though in recent days he’s declined to say whether that will still happen.
Trump Jr. and the Judiciary Committee had negotiated for him to appear privately and be interviewed only by committee staff Thursday. Senators were allowed to sit in but not ask questions.
According to one person with knowledge of what was said, Trump Jr. told committee staff that he didn’t inform his father about the June 2016 meeting.
Trump Jr. also said he didn’t know or didn’t recall the details of White House involvement in his response to the first reports of that meeting, the person said. The Washington Post reported in July that the president dictated a statement saying the meeting primarily concerned a Russian adoption program.
Items ‘need to be pursued’
Trump Jr. said he only remembers seven people in the meeting, though eight have been publicly reported.
The attendees Trump Jr. identified were himself, Goldstone, Manafort, Kushner, Veselnitskaya, a translator, and Irakli Kaveladze, who worked for the Agalarovs.
Trump Jr. does not mention Russian-American lobbyist Rinat Akhmetshin, who has told multiple news outlets that he attended the meeting at Veselnitskaya’s invitation. In recent weeks, Akhmetshin has testified about his recollection of the meeting before a Washington grand jury used by Mueller.
Sen. Richard Blumenthal, D-Conn., who attended part of Trump Jr.’s interview, said it was “cordial,” but there are “a lot of areas that need to be pursued for more information.”