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Mueller has dozens of inquiries for Trump

- By Michael S. Schmidt

WASHINGTON — Robert Mueller, the special counsel investigat­ing Russia’s election interferen­ce, has at least four dozen questions on an exhaustive array of subjects he wants to ask President Donald Trump to learn more about his ties to Russia and determine whether he obstructed the inquiry itself, according to a list of the questions obtained by the New York Times.

The open-ended queries appear to be an attempt to penetrate the president’s thinking, to get at the motivation behind some of his most combative Twitter posts and to examine his relationsh­ips with his family and his closest advisers. They deal chiefly with the president’s high-profile firings of the FBI di-

rector and his first national security adviser, his treatment of Attorney General Jeff Sessions and a 2016 Trump Tower meeting between campaign officials and Russians offering dirt on Hillary Clinton.

But they also touch on the president’s businesses; any discussion­s with his longtime personal lawyer, Michael Cohen, about a Moscow real estate deal; whether the president knew of any attempt by Jared Kushner, his son-in-law, to set up a back channel to Russia during the transition; any contacts he had with Roger Stone, a longtime adviser who claimed to have inside informatio­n about Democratic email hackings; and what happened during Trump’s 2013 trip to Moscow for the Miss Universe pageant.

The questions provide the most detailed look yet inside Mueller’s investigat­ion, which has been shrouded in secrecy since he was appointed nearly a year ago. The majority relate to possible obstructio­n of justice, demonstrat­ing how an investigat­ion into Russia’s election meddling grew to include an examinatio­n of the president’s conduct in office. Among them are queries on any discussion­s Trump had about his attempts to fire Mueller himself and what the president knew about possible pardon offers to Flynn.

“What efforts were made to reach out to Mr. Flynn about seeking immunity or possible pardon?” Mueller planned to ask, according to questions read by the special counsel investigat­ors to the president’s lawyers, who compiled them into a list. That document was provided to the Times by a person outside Trump’s legal team.

A few questions reveal that Mueller is still investigat­ing possible coordinati­on between the Trump campaign and Russia. In one of the more tantalizin­g inquiries, Mueller asks what Trump knew about campaign aides, including former chairman Paul Manafort, seeking assistance from Moscow: “What knowledge did you have of any outreach by your campaign, including by Paul Manafort, to Russia about potential assistance to the campaign?” No such outreach has been revealed publicly.

Jay Sekulow, a lawyer for Trump, declined to comment. A spokesman for the special counsel’s office did not respond to a request for comment.

The questions serve as a reminder of the chaotic first 15 months of the Trump presidency and the transition and campaign before that. Mueller wanted to inquire about public threats the president made, conflictin­g statements from Trump and White House aides, the president’s private admissions to Russian officials, a secret meeting at an island resort, WikiLeaks, salacious accusation­s and dramatic congressio­nal testimony.

The special counsel also sought informatio­n from the president about his relationsh­ip with Russia. Mueller would like to ask Trump whether he had any discussion­s during the campaign about any meetings with President Vladimir Putin of Russia and whether he spoke to others about either American sanctions against Russia or meeting with Putin.

Through his questions, Mueller also tries to tease out Trump’s views on law enforcemen­t officials and whether he sees them as independen­t investigat­ors or people who should loyally protect him.

For example, when FBI Director James Comey was fired, White House officials said he broke with Justice Department policy and spoke publicly about the investigat­ion into Clinton’s email server.

Mueller’s questions put that statement to the test. He wants to ask why, time and again, Trump expressed no concerns with whether Comey had abided by policy. Rather, in statements in private and on national television, Trump suggested that Comey was fired because of the Russia investigat­ion.

Many of the questions surround Trump’s relationsh­ip with Sessions, including the attorney general’s decision to recuse himself from the Russia investigat­ion and whether Trump told Sessions he needed him in place for protection.

Mueller appears to be investigat­ing how Trump took steps last year to fire Mueller himself. The president relented after the White House counsel, Donald McGahn, threatened to resign, an episode that the special counsel wants to ask about.

“What considerat­ion and discussion­s did you have regarding terminatin­g the special counsel in June of 2017?” Mueller planned to ask, according to the list of questions.

“What did you think and do in reaction to Jan. 25, 2018, story about the terminatio­n of the special counsel and Don McGahn backing you off the terminatio­n?” he planned to ask, referring to the Times article that broke the news of the confrontat­ion.

Mueller has sought for months to question the president, who has in turn expressed a desire, at times, to be interviewe­d, viewing it as an avenue to end the inquiry more quickly. His lawyers have been negotiatin­g terms of an interview out of concern that their client — whose exaggerati­ons, halftruths and outright falsehoods are well documented — could provide false statements or easily become distracted. Four people, including Flynn, have pleaded guilty to lying to investigat­ors in the Russia inquiry.

Mueller’s endgame remains a mystery, even if he determines the president broke the law.

A long-standing Justice Department legal finding says presidents cannot be charged with a crime while they are in office.

The special counsel told Trump’s lead lawyer, John Dowd, in March that though the president’s conduct is under scrutiny, he is not a target of the investigat­ion, meaning Mueller does not expect to charge him.

 ?? Doug Mills / New York Times ?? Special counsel Robert Mueller, right, provided President Donald Trump’s lawyers a list of questions that indicates Mueller’s focus is on obstructio­n of justice.
Doug Mills / New York Times Special counsel Robert Mueller, right, provided President Donald Trump’s lawyers a list of questions that indicates Mueller’s focus is on obstructio­n of justice.

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