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Brews, religious views mix peacefully at weekly Pub Theology meeting

- By Jane Stueckeman­n STAFF WRITER

Where do an Episcopali­an, a Methodist and someone who is in between an agnostic and a Christian gather to drink beer and talk about theologica­l and philosophi­cal issues — such as the meaning or absurdity of life?

No, this isn’t the setup for the punchline of a joke. It’s what actually happens at weekly Pub Theology meetups.

The goal of the group is to create a safe space that allows for diverse theologica­l, political and philosophi­cal discussion.

The Rev. Sean Steele, a priest at St. Isidore Episcopal Church, started the group about four years ago. Steele said his church, consisted of members from Spring and The Woodlands, sponsors the group.

“I read about this nationwide

“They’re welcome to do their thing, but the moment they preach to someone, they’re done.”

Matt Barr, general manager of Hop Scholar Ale House

movement called Pub Theology, and I realized that one of my interests was being out in the public square discussing theology, not spending all of my inertia looking inward at church traditions,” Steele said.

Snacks are provided at the meetups, and nonalcohol­ic drinks are available for those who do not wish to drink beer or other alcoholic beverages.

The casual conversati­on starts with an ice breaker, then attendees discuss a question of the week, the topics of which range from issues such as heaven’s existence or how people

find meaning in life to using philosophi­cal writings or biblical stories as context.

During an Aug. 21 meeting of the group, attendee Josephine Patton explained why she started going to the group after Steele recommende­d it to her.

“It’s like being home again. My parents and I used to have these discussion­s when I was younger,” Patton said.

The meetings garner an average of 13 people who occupy two or three tables in the back corner of Hop Scholar Ale House on Rayford in Spring.

Matt Barr, general manager of Hop Scholar, said the ale house allows the group to use the space, and he said they’re generally respectful.

“They’re welcome to do their thing, but the moment they preach to someone, they’re done,” Barr said.

A few months ago, Steele said they were approachin­g dangerous territory in that regard.

“As the community developed, we stopped valuing the respectful dialogue to the extent that we should have. Some people, who we liked, came to the community, but they were a little intolerant and started driving others away,” Steele said.

So, while they used to say that all were welcome, they had to adjust that premise to save the group.

“If you’re there believing that everyone has cancer and you have the cure, you’re not necessaril­y welcome. There are plenty of places for people to go and be reinforced by their beliefs, but this isn’t the place,” Steele said.

In the end, they agreed that it was still meaningful to gather for conversati­on.

“It just goes to show you how sensitive dialogue is when it comes to fragile things. If you don’t steward it well, you can damage it,” Steele added.

Now, Steele said, they print their group guidelines — centered on empathy, trust and sensitivit­y — at the top of the question sheets participan­ts receive at the gatherings.

“We all want to know and be known. I want to be in a place where I can tell others what I really think and have them keep coming back to the table,” Steele said. “That means we have to develop a certain level of trust with each other, which can be a slippery slope.”

The group tries to do this in a neutral space, not one where they try to indoctrina­te members into a specific religion.

Marcus Funk, an assistant professor at Sam Houston State University, helps to write questions for the group.

“Given how polarized we are as a society, politicall­y and socially and culturally, there aren’t a whole lot of opportunit­ies for people with different opinions and background­s to have conversati­ons,” Funk said.

And, he added, the medium matters.

“Instead of having the same conversati­on on Facebook, even if you use the same words and have the same intent… communicat­ing digitally is fundamenta­lly different than communicat­ing in person,” Funk said.

 ?? Photos by Jane Stueckeman­n / Staff ?? Mike Mayo, Adam Looney and Josephine Patton gather Tuesday at Hop Scholar Ale House in Spring for Pub Theology.
Photos by Jane Stueckeman­n / Staff Mike Mayo, Adam Looney and Josephine Patton gather Tuesday at Hop Scholar Ale House in Spring for Pub Theology.
 ??  ?? Todd and Corey Hayden, of Spring, own Hop Scholar Ale House, where members of St. Isidore Episcopal Church meet weekly.
Todd and Corey Hayden, of Spring, own Hop Scholar Ale House, where members of St. Isidore Episcopal Church meet weekly.

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