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Key witnesses kick off public testimony

Diplomat discloses surprise details on Trump’s pressure of Ukraine

- By Nicholas Fandos and Michael D. Shear

WASHINGTON — The House of Representa­tives opened historic impeachmen­t hearings on Wednesday and heard a senior American diplomat reveal new testimony that drew President Donald Trump closer to the center of the effort to pressure Ukraine to investigat­e former Vice President Joe Biden.

In a nationally televised hearing in the House Ways and Means Committee room across from the Capitol, William B. Taylor Jr., the top American diplomat in Ukraine, brought to life Democrats’ allegation­s that Trump has abused his office by trying to enlist a foreign power to help him in an election. Taylor testified to the House Intelligen­ce Committee, which is leading the inquiry, that his aide was told in July that Trump cared more about “investigat­ions of Biden” than he did about Ukraine.

The revelation, as Congress embarked on only the third set of presidenti­al impeachmen­t hearings in modern times, tied Trump more directly into what Taylor described in detail as a “highly irregular” effort to

place the president’s political interests at the center of American policy toward Ukraine.

“I don’t think President Trump was trying to end corruption in Ukraine,” said Rep. Jim Himes, D-Conn., encapsulat­ing Democrats’ case. “I think he was trying to aim corruption in Ukraine at Vice President Biden and at the 2020 election.”

The proceeding­s pushed into the public gaze a between Trump and Democrats over impeachmen­t that has shifted into high gear less than a year before the presidenti­al election. In the first impeachmen­t hearing on Capitol Hill in more than two decades, Taylor and another veteran diplomat, George P. Kent, sketched out, in testimony by turns cinematic and dry, a tale of foreign policymaki­ng distorted by a president’s political vendettas with a small country facing Russian aggression caught in the middle.

“If this is not impeachabl­e conduct,” demanded Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif., the chairman of the committee, “what is?”

Democrats worked to make their case to a deeply divided nation that Trump had put the integrity of the 2020 election at risk — by withholdin­g vital security assistance for Ukraine’s war with Russia to try to extract a political advantage for his reelection campaign.

Showing no sign of doubts, Trump’s Republican defenders raged against an impeachmen­t process they called unfair and illegitima­te, dismissing Taylor and Kent — who between them have 70 years of experience as public servants under presidents of both parties — as part of a “politicize­d bureaucrac­y” who were offering nothing more than hearsay and suppositio­n, rather than evidence of impeachabl­e conduct.

“The American people see through all this,” said Rep. Jim Jordan, R-Ohio. “They understand the facts support the president. They understand this process is unfair. And they see through the whole darn sham.”

At the White House, Trump sought to project an air of confidence in the face of an existentia­l threat to his presidency. Before a working meeting with President Recep Tayyip Erdogan of Turkey, Trump told reporters of the impeachmen­t hearing: “It’s a witch hunt. It’s a hoax. I’m too busy to watch it.”

But even so, Trump was busy all day retweeting allies commenting on the proceeding­s and defending him. His reelection campaign blasted out a fundraisin­g solicitati­on accusing Democrats of “playing a sick game.” And the Republican National

Committee circulated memes making fun of the witnesses as gossips who lacked firsthand informatio­n.

Even as the public recitation of facts unfolded in the hearing room, there were signs that Democrats’ investigat­ion was still expanding. Investigat­ors scheduled deposition­s with David Holmes, an official in the U.S. Embassy in Kyiv, and Mark Sandy of the Office of Management and Budget for Friday and Saturday. According to an official involved in the inquiry, Holmes was the aide Taylor referred to in his new testimony, who informed Taylor about Trump’s singular interest in investigat­ing the Bidens.

Taylor said a member of his staff overheard a telephone conversati­on in which the president mentioned “the investigat­ions” to Gordon Sondland, the United States ambassador to the European Union, who told Trump “that the Ukrainians were ready to move forward.” The conversati­on took place just one day after Trump personally pressed Ukraine’s new president in a phone call to investigat­e the Bidens and unproven allegation­s that Ukraine conspired with Democrats to interfere in the 2016 election.

When the staff member inquired after the call what the president thought about Ukraine, Sondland “responded that President Trump cares more about the investigat­ions of Biden, which Giuliani was pressing for,” in Taylor’s telling. Rudy Giuliani, the president’s personal lawyer, led what Taylor called a “highly irregular” policymaki­ng channel on Ukraine that ran counter to goals of long-standing American policy.

The episode was not included in Taylor’s interview with impeachmen­t investigat­ors last month because, he said, he was not aware of it at the time. But the new disclosure promises to figure prominentl­y when Sondland appears for his own public testimony next week.

The revelation came as Taylor recounted publicly what he had already told impeachmen­t investigat­ors privately about how he had discovered that Trump was conditioni­ng “everything” about the United States relationsh­ip with Ukraine — including needed military aid and a White House meeting for Ukraine’s president — on the country’s willingnes­s to commit publicly to investigat­ions of his political rivals. His testimony made it clear that the Ukrainians were well aware of the prerequisi­te at the time.

Asked by a Democratic lawyer if he had ever seen “another example of foreign aid conditione­d on the personal or political interests of the president of the United States,” Taylor, in a deeply sonorous voice that echoed through the hearing room as he delivered his remarks, said: “I have not.”

In his opening statement, Kent said he had concluded by midAugust that Giuliani’s efforts to pressure President Volodymyr Zelenskiy of Ukraine to open investigat­ions into Trump’s rivals “were now infecting U.S. engagement with Ukraine, leveraging President Zelenskiy’s desire for a White House meeting.”

Kent also assailed what he called a “campaign to smear” American officials serving in Ukraine, which succeeded with the ouster of Marie Yovanovitc­h, the former U.S. ambassador to Ukraine.

“It was unexpected, and most unfortunat­e, however, to watch some Americans — including those who allied themselves with corrupt Ukrainians in pursuit of private agendas — launch attacks on dedicated public servants advancing U.S. interests in Ukraine,” Kent said in his opening statement. “In my opinion, those attacks undermined U.S. and Ukrainian national interests and damaged our critical bilateral relationsh­ip.”

Over the coming 10 days, Democrats hope to lay out a case that will capture the public’s attention and convince a majority of Americans that Trump’s actions are worthy of the Constituti­on’s gravest reprimand, possible removal from office.

Determined to seize what is plainly their best chance to capture the attention of the American public, Schiff, the committee’s chairman, laid out the stakes. He invoked the words of Mick Mulvaney, the acting White House chief of staff, who defiantly told reporters to “get over it” when questioned about conditioni­ng military aid to Ukraine to investigat­ions Trump wanted.

“If he sought to condition, coerce, extort or bribe an ally into conducting investigat­ions to aid his reelection campaign, and did so by withholdin­g official acts — a White House meeting or hundreds of millions of dollars of needed military aid — must we simply ‘get over it’?” Schiff asked. “Is this what Americans should now expect from their president?”

 ?? Alex Brandon / Associated Press ?? Top U.S. diplomat in Ukraine William Taylor, right, and career Foreign Service officer George Kent are sworn in.
Alex Brandon / Associated Press Top U.S. diplomat in Ukraine William Taylor, right, and career Foreign Service officer George Kent are sworn in.
 ?? Alex Edelman / Bloomberg ?? “It’s a witch hunt . ... I’m too busy to watch it,” President Donald Trump said of the televised impeachmen­t hearings.
Alex Edelman / Bloomberg “It’s a witch hunt . ... I’m too busy to watch it,” President Donald Trump said of the televised impeachmen­t hearings.
 ?? J. Scott Applewhite / Associated Press ?? The impeachmen­t hearings have further divided the U.S. House, as Democrats try to make their case that President Donald Trump compromise­d the integrity of the 2020 elections against his Republican allies, who called the historic impeachmen­t process illegitima­te.
J. Scott Applewhite / Associated Press The impeachmen­t hearings have further divided the U.S. House, as Democrats try to make their case that President Donald Trump compromise­d the integrity of the 2020 elections against his Republican allies, who called the historic impeachmen­t process illegitima­te.
 ?? Erin Schaff / New York Times ?? Two senior diplomats, in defiance of the White House, testified on the first day of the hearings Wednesday.
Erin Schaff / New York Times Two senior diplomats, in defiance of the White House, testified on the first day of the hearings Wednesday.

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