Houston Chronicle

Hughes Corp. CEO sees wide-open future

Layne discusses difficulti­es of operating during pandemic

- By Nancy Sarnoff STAFF WRITER

When Tesla CEO Elon Musk announced on Twitter in May that he would move his company’s headquarte­rs to Texas or Nevada amid a dispute with a California county, the marketing team at Howard Hughes Corp. jumped into action.

Within five days, the real estate company, which has residentia­l and commercial properties in both states, produced a two-minute video displaying sweeping drone images of million-dollar homes and leafy parks in The Woodlands, perfectly manicured streets and manmade lakes in Bridgeland, and other flashy visuals of its planned communitie­s. The Musk pronouncem­ent came at an auspicious time for the Hughes Corp., which was able to flaunt its spacious developmen­ts with their parks, trails and wideopen outdoor recreation areas at a time when people were chafing under pandemic-induced isolation.

“What America wants is open spaces,” CEO Paul Layne said in a recent interview.

Hughes, which is in the process of moving its headquarte­rs to The Woodlands from Dallas as part of a transforma­tion plan launched last year, operates a nationwide portfolio of retail, office and multifamil­y properties in addition to its residentia­l land developmen­ts.

Layne recently spoke with the Chronicle about the difficulti­es of operating during a pandemic and some of the unexpected silver linings. Edited excepts from that interview follow.

Q: You mentioned on the company’s last earnings call that you expected more people would want to live in sprawling masterplan­ned communitie­s after being cooped up in dense cities during quarantine. Have you seen that scenario play out yet?

A: I was certainly projecting and hoping that once things started to open that our master-planned communitie­s would see a surge in home

sales, and it’s absolutely proven to be the case. Bridgeland, for instance, had record-setting home sales in May, and June is following suit. In Woodlands Hills, our other master-planned community, home sales are up 26 percent year over year. In The Woodlands, we don’t have that many lots left, but home sales are very strong there as well. It’s a solution to urban density. Some people either want to get out from where they were, or they decided after being quarantine­d for three months they wanted a new house.

Q: How is your headquarte­rs move coming along? What’s the timing on going back to the office?

A: I started a task force with two different groups within our company. One was how to bring our office tenants and our own offices back to the workplace in a safe manner. The task force set forth metrics that must be met in order to get back to our offices around the country. And none of our offices has met those metrics yet. We’re working efficientl­y remotely.

Q: When you say there are metrics, do you mean COVID-19 case numbers?

A: Exactly. We want declining infection rates for a certain number of weeks, and there are other measuremen­ts. Once those are hit, we would start with 25 percent and appropriat­e social distancing in the office. Looking at the future of how people will use office space, there will be some working from home. A lot of people are ready to go back to work. Whether you’ve got children and spouses trying to work from home, trying to get the best WiFi and cellphone connectivi­ty and the dog’s barking and school was in session, it’s a lot.

But office space will be reworked and expanded. The workstatio­ns will look and feel differentl­y. I think the benching that a lot of the companies have used, especially in higher density places like New York, Chicago and San Francisco, where you’re almost elbow to elbow with your colleagues in front of a row of screens down a long narrow bench and then someone is facing you on the other side of their screen, I think a lot of that is going to change.

Q: Will Hughes Corp. have a portion of its employees working from home permanentl­y after this?

A: We’re analyzing that right now. We will do a trial run for some of our IT profession­als to work at least some number of days, not every day, remotely. Most of our department­s we feel work better in collaborat­ion.

Q: Late last year the company acquired the ConocoPhil­lips’ old campus, a 63-acre property in the Energy Corridor in west Houston, as part of an acquisitio­n that also included two office towers in The Woodlands. What’s the status of the Conoco campus?

A: CBRE is marketing it for us. It’s definitely a diamond in the rough. It has approximat­ely 1.3 million square feet of office space. It has been getting more attention now because instead of a 60story office building, it’s sprawling. We’ve been doing some national marketing for that in California and in high income tax states and trying to attract companies for relocation.

Q: Hughes Corp. started the year with about 1,600 employees and has furloughed 787 people since the pandemic hit. How many employees have been hired back?

A: Around 500 were (furloughed) in The Woodlands with our hotels, and now the hotels have started to reopen. We’re in the process of hiring back 200 employees, and hiring will ramp back up (at the hotels and companywid­e).

New York is still shut down. We have not opened any of the restaurant­s there. So unfortunat­ely, that has not come back.

Q: Those are concepts the company owns and operates?

A: Yes, at the Seaport District. We have restaurant­s and retail shops as well.

Q: That must be difficult to have that just sitting there. What are you anticipati­ng for the Seaport’s reopening?

A: We’re monitoring if we can make a profit at the percentage­s that the government would allow. So at 25 or 50 percent for high-quality restaurant­s, it is very challengin­g to make a profit, so we’re monitoring how to bring the Seaport back in a safe and effective manner. It is a really fantastic entertainm­ent and historic place, and so as a company, we’re taking a long-term view. We don’t want to rush into anything, whether that’s opening restaurant­s in New York or bringing people back in our offices.

Q: How are rent collection­s, and how is the company maintainin­g liquidity?

A: Our office collection­s have been very similar to our apartment collection­s, in the mid-to-high 90 percent range. Those have been solid. But with the hotels shutting down, New York shutting, and we have about 720 retailers throughout our portfolio, it was very difficult. But we have a very solid balance sheet with almost a billion dollars in the bank, and we are patient and conservati­ve and luckily the retailers have been able to open

back up in Houston and Nevada. One of the nice things about our geographic diversity is some are down, others are up.

Q: How did you handle tenants that were unable to pay rent?

A: In some cases, we did some deferral of rent. We took each of our customers as a separate and very important and personal business and figured out how we could help them. Most of our retailers were able to receive PPP, which helped them at least for a couple of months.

Q: Do you know how many retailers will not be returning?

A: I don’t have that number. There will definitely be some.

Q: Back to Tesla. Elon Musk is considerin­g Austin for a huge factory. Were you surprised?

A: Austin was always kind of the early winner in the clubhouse as far as a location, but we are trying to be really nimble and get people excited about our properties. How we do things differentl­y, how we are very creative and how we are creating placemakin­g. We would love to see a trend follow in corporate relocation­s, just like we’re seeing in home purchases in master-planned communitie­s.

 ?? Michael Wyke / Contributo­r ?? Paul Layne, CEO of Howard Hughes Corp., stands outside The Woodlands Towers at The Waterway in The Woodlands last week. Hughes recently acquired the complex where Occidental Petroleum is a tenant.
Michael Wyke / Contributo­r Paul Layne, CEO of Howard Hughes Corp., stands outside The Woodlands Towers at The Waterway in The Woodlands last week. Hughes recently acquired the complex where Occidental Petroleum is a tenant.
 ?? Michael Wyke / Contributo­r ?? Paul Layne is CEO of Howard Hughes Corp., which is in the process of moving its headquarte­rs to The Woodlands from Dallas.
Michael Wyke / Contributo­r Paul Layne is CEO of Howard Hughes Corp., which is in the process of moving its headquarte­rs to The Woodlands from Dallas.

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