Las Vegas Review-Journal (Sunday)

Luke Skywalker speaks

- By Dave Itzkoff

MALIBU, Calif. — It was maybe the longest buildup in movie history.

After more than three decades since he was last on screen, years of anticipati­on and some two hours into “Star Wars: The Force Awakens,” there was Luke Skywalker, the once youthful hero of this science-fiction saga, revealed as a weathered elder. Standing at a cliff with a solemn look on his face, he was about to receive his lightsaber from Rey, the young heroine, when the story ended and the credits rolled. Luke never said a word.

If this was a bitterswee­t moment for fans — an abrupt, tantalizin­g preface to the next “Star Wars” sequel, “The Last Jedi,” which opens Dec. 15 — imagine how it felt for Mark Hamill.

Since 1977, when the original “Star Wars” went supernova and started a multibilli­on-dollar franchise, Hamill has been synonymous with Luke Skywalker, the desert-dwelling tenderfoot who destroys the Death Star, becomes a Jedi knight and reconciles with his villainous father, Darth Vader.

In 2015, “The Force Awakens” found more substantia­l screen time for the senior incarnatio­ns of Princess Leia (Carrie Fisher) and Han Solo (Harrison Ford). But Luke was withheld for maximum anticipati­on, a decision that Hamill came to accept — eventually — as a gift to him and his character.

“It is, if you can be objective about it,” he said a few weeks ago, sitting in his home here near the Pacific Ocean.

Finding that inner peace took Hamill several months of frustratio­n and self-pity — not to mention a Lucasfilm-mandated regimen of dieting and exercise, during which he thought to himself: “Why are they training me to turn and remove a hood? I could be the size of Marlon Brando in ‘Apocalypse Now,’ who’s going to know?”

You would understand if Hamill, now 66, had a conflicted relationsh­ip with “Star Wars,” which put him on a pop-cultural pedestal. The series defined and dominated his career, even as he took on other film, television and theater roles; the franchise went into periods of hibernatio­n, then came roaring back and restored him to relevance when he least expected it.

But Hamill isn’t bitter or jaded, and he isn’t Luke, though he has retained some of that character’s incorrupti­bility. He’s gone from a new hope to an old hand, with a lined, expressive face and a gray beard, beneath which lurks a mischievou­s sense of humor, a yearning to perform and a joy in sharing “Star Wars” war stories.

At heart, he is as much of an unapologet­ic geek as any of his admirers, as astonished by the circumstan­ces that brought “Star Wars” into his life as he is grateful that he gets to return to its galaxy of long ago and far, far away.

“I’m such a fraud,” he said with a theatrical air. “But I’m enjoying all the residual attention that the movie’s getting. I should be, by all rights, puttering in my garden with a metal detector, telling kids to get off my lawn. What’s not to love?”

On this October afternoon, he was at home with his wife, Marilou, and their daughter, Chelsea; the couple also has two sons, Nathan and Griffin. The spacious dwelling is hardly a shrine to “Star Wars” — it’s mostly decorated with artwork of cherubs and the Beatles, Hamill’s own cultural obsession, though you might spot a photo of the 2-year-old Nathan frolicking with Yoda on the set of “Return of the Jedi.”

Lucas said he chose Hamill from a pool of young actors because he brought a measure of humanity to a film full of space vehicles and special effects. “I needed a protagonis­t who was comfortabl­e treating these things both casually and seriously in order to give that world an air of authentici­ty,” Lucas said. He added that Hamill “brought a boyish enthusiasm and exuberance that really defined the character,” and that “made Luke accessible and relatable to people in the first ‘Star Wars’” and its sequels.

Hamill committed fully to the material, but was unsure it would find a wider audience. “I thought, even if this thing doesn’t slay at the box office, it’s got midnight cult movie written all over it,” he said. “Move over, ‘Rocky Horror,’ ‘Star Wars’ is here!”

Instead, “Star Wars” became an internatio­nal phenomenon, tying Hamill to his character and to Fisher and Ford — even now, he sometimes accidental­ly calls them “Harry and Carrison” — as they promoted the movie together.

Ford said that during this time, “the three of us were like a very small tribe in the wilderness. We really were figuring this out as we went along.” Hamill struck him as “a very bright, sincere young actor,” who Ford said “seemed probably the most clear on what he was doing.”

Hamill, who receives a percentage of the “Star Wars” royalties, did not go onto a mainstream career, but he is hardly rueful now. Of his cohort, Hamill said Ford was the one meant for matinee idol status: “He’s a brilliant actor — that’s a given,” he said. “He’s also a leading man. When I tested for this thing, I assumed he was the protagonis­t and I was his annoying sidekick.” Hamill believed he’d find his destiny on a different path — one that was less glamorous, but that fully embraced his affection for the esoteric, the offbeat and the weird.

After two blockbuste­r sequels, “The Empire Strikes Back” in 1980 and “Return of the Jedi” in 1983, Hamill believed the “Star Wars” story was complete. With newfound visibility, he decided to pursue a lifelong dream of performing on Broadway, where he had played John Merrick in “The Elephant Man.” “I wasn’t getting character parts in movies and television,” he explained. “Unless you’re Meryl Streep, they don’t let you do accents.”

Over the next 30 years, Hamill was cast in cult films and TV shows, often poking fun at his inability to shed his “Star Wars” legacy. He played an interstell­ar fighter pilot in the Wing Commander video games, and on “The Simpsons,” he portrayed himself playing Nathan Detroit as Luke Skywalker in a mediocre dinner-theater production of “Guys and Dolls.” Perhaps his best-known work from this era was providing the voice of the malevolent Joker in several animated Batman TV shows, movies and video games.

He was always comfortabl­e being part of the “Star Wars” subculture, gladly attending convention­s and engaging with the people he calls UPFs (for “ultra-passionate fans”).

“It’s clearly not for everyone — I get that,” Hamill said. “But the passion of it all is just astonishin­g. The way it’s become part of the fabric of their lives — ‘I met my wife at this movie, we named our child Leia’ — it’s moving.”

He was not involved in the much-maligned “Star Wars” prequels from 1999 to 2005. And when Lucas invited him and Fisher to a lunch in 2012, to tell them he was giving control of Lucasfilm to Kathleen Kennedy and that a new “Star Wars” trilogy was being planned, Hamill had no expectatio­n of being asked to participat­e. “We figured we had the middle three,” he said. “It was over.”

When Lucas said their characters would be included in these new films if they wanted to play them, Hamill said, “I was completely stunned. Carrie, not a minute went by — she slapped the table and goes, ‘I’m in!’ I said, ‘Carrie, poker face!’”

Hamill needed more time to think. “I was just really scared,” he said. “I thought, why mess with it? The idea of catching lightning in a bottle twice was ridiculous­ly remote.”

He also feared that audiences would reject him and his veteran co-stars, all these years after their “Star Wars” heyday. “No one wants to see the 50-, 60-, 70-yearold versions of us, running around, bumping heads on the Death Star,” he said. “It’s sad.”

Hamill thought he would have some cover to refuse “The Force Awakens,” expecting that Ford would not return.

“He’s too old and too rich and too cranky,” Hamill said. “He’s not going to do this.” But when Ford said yes, Hamill realized he had to agree, too: “Can you imagine if I was the only one to say no? I’d be the most hated man in nerd-dom.”

Soon after accepting, Hamill got to bask in the adulation of “Star Wars” fans eager to see him on new adventures with the young novices Rey (Daisy Ridley) and Finn (John Boyega). He trained to get into shape and met with Lucasfilm artists. But deeper behind the scenes, J.J. Abrams, the director of “The Force Awakens,” and his co-writer, Lawrence Kasdan, a writer of “The Empire Strikes Back” and “Return of the Jedi,” were realizing their ever-expanding script could not accommodat­e Luke’s storyline.

“The idea of it was so enormous,” Abrams said. “It became clear that there was no way that that movie could also include those chapters. That had to be the next movie.”

Eventually Abrams had to tell Hamill that Luke would not be a significan­t character in “The Force Awakens.” “I let him know before he read the script that his role was minimal,” Abrams said. “I don’t think he knew just how minimal until he read it.”

In their next conversati­on, Abrams acknowledg­ed, Hamill was “not particular­ly happy with how little he was in it.”

Hamill does not deny his initial disappoint­ment, though he said he was mostly afraid that Luke’s big reveal at the end would fall flat. “If it smacks the audience as a cheat or a gimmick, if there’s a big groan in the house, the egg’s on my face, not J.J.’s,” he said.

Amid lingering feelings of petulance, Hamill traveled to London in 2014 for a table read — he jokingly calls it a “table listen” — of the “Force Awakens” script. He had no dialogue, so Abrams instead asked him to read the narration. (“I think he wanted to break me, like you break a racehorse,” Hamill said.) Still, he was excited to meet Ridley and Boyega, and to reunite with Anthony Daniels (C-3PO), Peter Mayhew (Chewbacca), Fisher and Ford.

Ford, who had not seen Hamill in many years and shared no scenes with him in “The Force Awakens,” lamented that they had worked together on the early “Star Wars” movies far less than viewers realize.

“The number of on-screen days that I spent with Mark were very, very few,” he said. “I knew Chewbacca better.”

Yet as soon as he spotted Hamill there, Ford said, “aside from the obvious passage of time, which had happened to both of us, he was very much the same guy, albeit bearded.”

“He’s very centered in his own experience and his own life,” Ford said. “He’s not a grandstand­er. He’s a quiet, sincere, workmanlik­e presence, and that’s what we’re there for.”

Hamill has come to appreciate his extended cameo in “The Force Awakens” — “when they talk about you that much in a movie before you even show up, that’s fabulous,” he said.

But now he and the “The Last Jedi” creators understand how much is riding on them with this film.

“I told him, everyone is going to be leaning forward for your first words in this,” said Rian Johnson, the “Last Jedi” writer and director. “Obviously, Mark came into this one with higher expectatio­ns for what we do with the character.”

 ?? TURE LILLEGRAVE­N / THE NEW YORK TIMES ?? Mark Hamill poses Oct. 2 at home in Malibu, Calif. Hamill has always embraced his “Star Wars” legacy, but when he was invited back for “The Force Awakens” and “The Last Jedi,” he hesitated: “I was just really scared.”
TURE LILLEGRAVE­N / THE NEW YORK TIMES Mark Hamill poses Oct. 2 at home in Malibu, Calif. Hamill has always embraced his “Star Wars” legacy, but when he was invited back for “The Force Awakens” and “The Last Jedi,” he hesitated: “I was just really scared.”
 ?? PHOTO BY JORDAN STRAUSS / INVISION / AP FILE (2015) ?? Mark Hamill arrives at the world premiere of “Star Wars: The Force Awakens” Dec. 14, 2015, at the TCL Chinese Theatre in Los Angeles. Hamill, who appeared but didn’t speak in “The Force Awakens” is featured in the next “Star Wars” sequel, “The Last...
PHOTO BY JORDAN STRAUSS / INVISION / AP FILE (2015) Mark Hamill arrives at the world premiere of “Star Wars: The Force Awakens” Dec. 14, 2015, at the TCL Chinese Theatre in Los Angeles. Hamill, who appeared but didn’t speak in “The Force Awakens” is featured in the next “Star Wars” sequel, “The Last...

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