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Speaking, not sexually, with Dr. Ruth at 90

- By James Barron New York Times News Service

Dr. Ruth Westheimer was talking about the recent royal wedding — not about Prince Harry or Meghan Markle, but about the woman in the lime-green dress, Queen Elizabeth II.

“I was going to say she’s old, but I am older,” Westheimer said. Actually, no. The queen is two years, one month and 15 days older than Westheimer, who turned 90 on Monday and is in talks for a return to television. But the point she wanted to make did not hinge on exactness.

“I didn’t see her smile,” Westheimer said. Always the therapist, she offered advice: “Somebody should have talked to the queen — look happy so others can rejoice, even if you disagree.” Of course Westheimer would have been happy to have been that somebody. “If I were there, I’d have made her smile,” she said. “How wonderful is this — how wonderful that she is still alive to experience change in the British Empire, when a divorced biracial woman can marry a prince.”

Westheimer is still the 4-foot-7-inch dynamo who published her autobiogra­phy 30 years ago, when she was only 59 — one review was headlined “The Long Life of a Short Woman.” She has just published another autobiogra­phy, this one illustrate­d, like a graphic novel. So 90 seemed an appropriat­e moment to ask: What have you learned along the way?

“Oooh, how much time do you have?” she chirped in the idiosyncra­tic voice that a long-ago listener described as “Grandma Freud.” She continued: “How fast do I have to talk? It’s an important question.”

For a moment, before the conversati­on turned into a whirlwind account of what she is up to these days, she took stock. “Not only was I one of the first to talk about matters of sexuality, but the timing,” she said. “When I started the radio program in 1981, not many people were talking about sexuality. Not many people were talking about AIDS or HIV. I said you have to use condoms and know with whom you go to bed.”

That was not all she said on the air, of course. “Words like ‘erectile dysfunctio­n’ and ‘vagina’ don’t exactly slip off the tongue,” Vanity Fair said in 2009, when it named her one of “12 women who changed the way we look at sex,” but Westheimer “had a way of talking about them that felt natural, even soothing.” Vanity Fair also said she used her clinical training and “sassy attitude to create the first widespread outlet for anonymous, prompt, trustworth­y sex advice.”

This was in the early 1980s, before Viagra — and before commercial­s for Viagra and its competitor­s. Westheimer preached stimulatio­n and satisfacti­on, and soon she was a celebrity.

But now there is a problem. “There is an age that does not know me,” she said.

So, another television show, for another generation. She said the format would be to go to college campuses and tape episodes with a younger co-host. She would not say where the program would be carried because the contract had not been signed. She did say the producers had initially wanted a woman as the co-host. “I said, ‘No, give me a man,’ ” she said. “I will let him talk, too — I will discipline myself.”

She has other travel plans besides the colleges: a cruise on the Queen Mary 2, to Canada, giving lectures to other passengers. She has done cruises before, and has always insisted on a behind-the-scenes session with the crew.

“Usually when I go on the boat, I ask the captain to read questions to me,” she said. “The last time, the captain was British, very tall, and had to say ‘orgasm’ and ‘erection.’ Never did they think they would hear the captain talk about the things we were talking about.” This time around, she said, she hoped the captain would have time. “If not, I will take the second-in-command.”

Then there are the new books, both written with Pierre A. Lehu, a friend who has been an adviser since 1981. (“She gave me a title long ago: minister of communicat­ions,” he said.) Besides the illustrate­d autobiogra­phy, there is “Stay or Go: Dr. Ruth’s Rules for Real Relationsh­ips.”

“Anybody who’s in a good relationsh­ip, don’t buy this book,” she said.

That does not sound like a marketing plan that would go over well with the publisher, Amazon Books. She is not worried. “I don’t check with them,” she said.

A documentar­y is also in the works. The film crew attended her birthday party Monday night, taping reminiscen­ces from the 400 friends she invited. It was held at the Museum of Jewish Heritage, in lower Manhattan, in New York. She is a board member, and when she raises money for the museum, she has a unique pitch. She tells donors, “You get good sex for the rest of your life.”

The humor is disarming, as her humor always has been, but not disarming enough to mask a basic fact of her identity: Before she was “Dr. Ruth,” she was a German-jewish refugee. She describes herself as “an orphan of the Holocaust, not a victim.”

“I do not call myself a survivor,” she said. “My parents sent me to Switzerlan­d on a Kindertran­sport.” Her father had been taken away by the Gestapo; after World War II, she learned that her parents had been killed in the Holocaust, possibly at Auschwitz. She emigrated to Palestine, joined the paramilita­ry group Haganah and was wounded in an explosion.

She retraced her life there a couple of weeks ago with the documentar­y crew in tow. The cameras were rolling as she assembled a rifle like the one she learned to shoot. But there is a difference now. “Because of Columbine, I would never touch a gun again,” she said.

The cameras also followed her to Haifa, where she visited her first boyfriend. She had known him in Switzerlan­d.

“He was smarter than me,” she said. “Because he was a boy, he was allowed to study in high school.”

This is described in the illustrate­d autobiogra­phy. She said the dormitorie­s in Switzerlan­d had a strict lights-out policy. “But there was light in the stairwell,” she said, so he would pass his books to her. She would sneak into the stairwell and read.

She was in Israel in May when the U.S. Embassy in Jerusalem was dedicated. “I decided not to go,” she said. “I am not doing politics. I talk about sex from morning till night. People like me have to stay away from politics.”

So, for a moment, let us return to stocktakin­g at 90.

“I saved some lives by saying don’t have one-night stands,” she said. “I’m the same. I’m old-fashioned. I’m still talking about relationsh­ips. I’m still saying be careful. Young people don’t see anybody die nowadays, but I say the same to them. They think they can have one-night stands.”

And there was one more thing about the royal wedding, about the bride and groom.

“I’m sure they’re having a good sex life,” she said. “She has had sex before, she found Prince Charming and captured him. They don’t need Dr. Ruth.”

 ?? RICK LOOMIS / THE NEW YORK TIMES ?? After countless radio and television appearance­s and two autobiogra­phies, sex therapist Dr. Ruth Westheimer takes stock of her long career.
RICK LOOMIS / THE NEW YORK TIMES After countless radio and television appearance­s and two autobiogra­phies, sex therapist Dr. Ruth Westheimer takes stock of her long career.

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