Los Angeles Times (Sunday)

ALL IN, MIND, BODY AND SPIRIT

PLAYING MACBETH IN HIS LATER YEARS HAS RESONATED WITH DENZEL WASHINGTON AS HE PREPARES FOR LIFE’S ‘FOURTH QUARTER’

- GLENN WHIPP COLUMNIST

“Southern man, better keep your head ... don’t forget what your good book said,”

mother is trying to save me from the streets and heroin. And they sent me to a school with a bunch of white kids with acid. So I was introduced to the [Beatles’] White Album on orange Owsley or orange sunshine or some blotter. So it expanded my experience.”

“Number nine, number nine, number nine,” I say, repeating the recurring words in the Beatles’ trippy sound collage “Revolution 9.” Washington does me one better. “Turn me on, dead man,” he says, laughing, evoking what you might hear if you play the song backward.

How did we arrive at this place? It began when Washington mentioned that his wife of 38 years, Pauletta, just bought him a new phone, telling him it had a better camera. For Washington, a phone is a phone. And also a jukebox, though he does not stream music. He still buys it from the iTunes store. He asks me to explain Spotify. He shakes his head; he’s not signing up.

“I support artists,” Washington says. “I don’t want you streaming me without buying.”

Washington’s latest movie, “The Tragedy of Macbeth,” which earned the 67-year-old actor his 10th Oscar nomination, is available right now only on a streaming platform, Apple TV+. He and Frances McDormand play Shakespear­e’s Macbeth

and Lady Macbeth as an older couple making a last, desperate bid for power.

“The arc for me was going ‘from deep and dark desires,’ ” Washington says, quoting the play, “to ‘I’ve sold my soul. I’ve given everything I could to the devil to be king.’ Watch what you ask for. ‘Heavy is the head that wears the crown.’ ”

Macbeth’s advanced age resonated with Washington. When we sat down, I asked him about a quote attributed to Will Smith, who said he called Washington for advice when he was in his late 40s. Related Smith: “He said, ‘Listen. You’ve got to think of it as the funky 40. Everybody’s 40s are funky.’ He said, ‘But just wait till you hit the f—-it 50s.’ ”

“I didn’t say that,” Washington says, taking exception, I believe, to the language.

But he warms to the subject. “I’m almost done with my 60s,” Washington says. He looks at me but I’m not there yet. “You’re prepping for the fourth quarter, though. The only way to get overtime is doing the work now. If life has four quarters — zero to 20, 20 to 40, 40 to 60, 60 to 80 — you’re about to enter the fourth quarter. Anything after 80 is overtime.”

So how do you prepare for the fourth quarter? Washington answers with three words: Body. Mind. Spirit.

He elaborates, of course.

Washington reads the Bible daily. Usually a chapter. He’ll make notes, then go back and read the same chapter again the next day to review it before moving on. Pauletta gave him a new Bible on Christmas, and he intends on giving his old one containing 30 years of thoughts written in the margins to his oldest son, John David.

Every time we’ve spoken over the years, Washington has urged me to get the Daily Word, a magazine that offers affirmatio­ns and readings. I have not done this. I thought it was an app. Washington has no use for apps. And he has no time for excuses.

“If you have studied your Bible, which I suggest you do ... I know you need to. I feel you, so I know,” he says. “I can feel you, trust me. I know you need to, and, more importantl­y, I know you want to.”

As for nourishing the mind, Washington says that’s a “very tricky business” in this age of misinforma­tion. He tells me to get the Daily Word. I tell him to subscribe to the L.A. Times.

Washington believes he has the body covered, riding his exercise bike, listening to Fela Kuti’s 12-minute Afrobeat song “Zombie” three times straight through, which covers some warm-up time and then six miles. He likes “Zombie,” because he can ride and not get caught up in the lyrics.

“All right,” Washington says, clapping his hands, leaning in. “Here we go. Five albums on an island. And you only get five. Who are you taking?”

I say Beatles. He says “White Album.” I say “Revolver.” We agree on Marvin Gaye’s “What’s Going On.” I need John Coltrane’s “A Love Supreme.” He loves Coltrane too and goes with “My Favorite Things.”

“You go in my bathroom right now and you see Muhammad Ali, John Coltrane and Nelson Mandela. Because we have conversati­ons.” Washington laughs. “I shut the door and talk to them. No. 1: ‘How’d you do it?’ You know, ‘Go with me today.’ ” Washington gives me a layout of the room, pointing to imaginary spots in the air where the pictures hang. “John sits right here. Nelson’s right there. Ali’s right there. And I’m sitting on the throne, talking to the fellas.”

And what’s Coltrane telling you?

“Trust your spirit. Free up,” Washington answers. “Nelson probably says, ‘Sacrifice.’ You know, he gave his 20 whatever amount of years ... he sacrificed. Ali is a photograph of him knocking out George Foreman. But it’s signed to me. So that’s personal.”

The signed photo reminds him of the first time he met Sidney Poitier, in 1978. Washington saw the legendary actor through a window outside a bookstore near the Beverly Wilshire hotel and ran back to the Lincoln Continenta­l he was borrowing from his uncle to retrieve a headshot and résumé.

“Never run so fast in my life,” Washington says, smiling. “I was naive enough or young enough or hungry enough to think, ‘This is my shot.’ He respectful­ly declined to accept it.”

Ten years later, Washington found himself at the Oscars for the first time, nominated for his supporting work in the apartheid drama “Cry Freedom.”

“Oh, that first time was terrible,” Washington says. “There was a huge traffic jam outside the Shrine Auditorium. I was sick from nerves and had some gastro-whatever-you-call-it, and when I got in there, Sean Connery, who won that year, was presenting an award. And he walks out and gets a twominute standing ovation. And I was like, ‘Let’s go get the coats, because this is over.’ ”

Two years later, Washington was back at the Oscars and won for “Glory.”

Our time together is almost up. Washington circles back to the project he initiated. “OK. Beatles. Marvin. Coltrane. We’ve got two more. What else?” If you’re going to bring Coltrane, you need Miles Davis. So I nominate “Kind of Blue.” He comes back with Carole King’s “Tapestry.” For my fifth, I add Joni Mitchell’s “Blue.”

“No Stevie?” he asks. “Stevie Wonder changed my life. I’m bringing ‘Songs in the Key of Life.’ ” He throws out more artists and albums — Pharoah Sanders, James Brown — and then riffs on Shakespear­e.

“Shakespear­e’s the ‘What’s Going On,’ the White Album, the ‘Tapestry’ for me,” he says. “The ultimate challenge and the ultimate standard. I had to try to meet Shakespear­e where he lives. That’s the joy in it for me. Yes, I fell short. But I look to go back again. You know, Lear’s around the corner.” Fourth quarter, I tell him. “Fourth quarter,” he repeats. “And I look forward to opening that door and seeing who’s in there.”

 ?? Christina House Los Angeles Times ?? E N Z E L WA S H I N G T O N and I have been talking for a good, long stretch on a recent late Friday afternoon, discussing life’s fourth quarter, the September of our years, when, pretty much out of nowhere, he starts singing Neil Young’s “Southern Man.” ¶ If you asked me to name, oh, I don’t know, maybe a thousand songs that Washington might serenade me with on this day, “Southern Man” would not have cracked the list. ¶
Washington sings, performing a pretty spot-on approximat­ion of Young’s high tenor. He smiles. “One of my favorite songs of all time.” ¶ Washington had been rememberin­g when he went away to boarding school in upstate New York as a teenager, following a youth spent in the house of his Pentecosta­l minister father, Denzel Washington Sr., where secular music wasn’t allowed. ¶ “You’ve got to understand,” Washington says. “My
Christina House Los Angeles Times E N Z E L WA S H I N G T O N and I have been talking for a good, long stretch on a recent late Friday afternoon, discussing life’s fourth quarter, the September of our years, when, pretty much out of nowhere, he starts singing Neil Young’s “Southern Man.” ¶ If you asked me to name, oh, I don’t know, maybe a thousand songs that Washington might serenade me with on this day, “Southern Man” would not have cracked the list. ¶ Washington sings, performing a pretty spot-on approximat­ion of Young’s high tenor. He smiles. “One of my favorite songs of all time.” ¶ Washington had been rememberin­g when he went away to boarding school in upstate New York as a teenager, following a youth spent in the house of his Pentecosta­l minister father, Denzel Washington Sr., where secular music wasn’t allowed. ¶ “You’ve got to understand,” Washington says. “My

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