Los Angeles Times

A MAN FOR ALL REASON

With ‘The Post,’ Tom Hanks indulges his passion for history

- BY JOSH ROTTENBERG

In spring and summer 1971, the American political landscape was on fire. In March, the Weather Undergroun­d set off a bomb in the U.S. Capitol. In April, half a million people marched on Washington to protest the Vietnam War. And in June, the Nixon administra­tion battled with the New York Times and the Washington Post over the publicatio­n of the classified Pentagon Papers, which revealed years of deception at the highest levels of the government regarding the conduct of the war. At the time, Tom Hanks wasn’t particular­ly aware of all this. He was a 14-year-old kid from Oakland, finishing up his run at Bret Harte Junior High, and he had things other than politics on his mind. “I didn’t pay that much attention to what was going on,” Hanks recalled on a recent afternoon in Santa Monica. “I paid attention to things that 14-year-olds pay attention to: the Oakland Raiders and the California Golden Seals hockey team and girls and stuff. Cut to winter 2017, and the American political landscape is once again on fire. One of Hollywood’s most universall­y beloved stars, Hanks is now 61, though he still has a boyish, excitable quality — amplified this afternoon by the double caffeine hit of a Diet Coke and a latte. And this time, he is very much engaged with what’s going on. In Steven Spielberg’s new period drama, “The Post,” which goes into wide release on Jan. 12, Hanks stars as the late Washington Post editor Ben Bradlee, who, along with the

paper’s pioneering publisher, Katharine Graham (Meryl Streep), stepped in to publish the Pentagon Papers after the Nixon administra­tion sued the New York Times to halt publicatio­n.

With critics lauding Hanks’ performanc­e as the brash, charismati­c Bradlee — portrayed by Jason Robards in an Oscar-winning turn in 1976’s “All the President’s Men” — “The Post” has suddenly placed the actor not only in this year’s awards-season conversati­on but in the thick of today’s political debate.

A longtime history buff, Hanks marvels at the echoes between then and now as the Trump administra­tion engages daily in its own battle with the mainstream news media. “All this time passes and nothing really changed,” he said. “It was the same sort of language and almost the same subject then as what’s happening now — minus Twitter feeds and cable news.”

If anything, Hanks sees the situation today as even more fraught, the stakes even higher. “The Nixon administra­tion waged almost a quaint assault on the 1st Amendment,” he said. “The facts were understood then — it was the opinion you had of them that was up for grabs. The thing that’s happening now is almost a Bizarro Superman war on reason.”

As “The Post” was shooting last summer, Hanks found the historical resonances at times downright uncanny.

“There was one day where something had happened with the Russia investigat­ion — it might have been [former national security advisor Michael] Flynn getting fired — and we were watching it on one of the period TVs in Ben Bradlee’s office,” he remembered. “Here we are, in these Nixon-era clothes, watching on a Nixon-era TV, and we all looked up, like, ‘What year is this? Is this a Rod Serling [“Twilight Zone”] episode where we have a magic TV that can see into the future?’ ”

Years ago, Hanks had met Bradlee, who died in 2014, and his wife, Sally Quinn, socially on a number of occasions through mutual friend the late writer and filmmaker Nora Ephron.

“He was a big personalit­y,” Hanks said. “Everybody had an anecdote about Ben. Everybody had an amusing saga.” Diving into the research, Hanks keyed in on one quote from Bradlee that seemed to sum up his hard-nosed yet idealistic journalist­ic ethos: “You have to be cynical without being a cynic.”

“The Post” marks Hanks’ fifth time being directed by Spielberg, following “Saving Private Ryan,” “Catch Me If You Can,” “The Terminal” and “Bridge of Spies.” But the director says Hanks has never taken on a role quite like this one, in part because Bradlee himself was a unique figure.

“There was a kind of sexiness about Ben Bradlee in the way he led the newsroom and the way he tenaciousl­y would fight for a story — even fight his own publisher or anybody who pushed back on him,” Spielberg said. “There were big dimensions, big colors, that I don’t believe Tom has ever played before. There was a kind of machismo about Bradlee that Tom hasn’t brought to many other characters in his storied career.”

‘A real bond of trust’

Over the years, Spielberg and Hanks — whose working relationsh­ip goes all the way back to the 1986 comedy “The Money Pit,” which Spielberg produced — have establishe­d a deep creative mind-meld. “We have a similar philosophy of less is more,” Spielberg said, explaining that he will often trim lines of dialogue to get more quickly to the essence of a scene, only to find that Hanks has independen­tly marked the same lines with a red pen in his script.

“They have a real bond of trust,” said “The Post” producer Kristie Macosko Krieger, who has worked with Spielberg for more than two decades. “They know each of them is going to show up on set with their best ideas and they’ll make it through the day together as a team.”

While collaborat­ing with Spielberg on “The Post” may have been old hat, Hanks had never worked with Streep before, a somewhat surprising turn of events that neither can quite explain. “Everyone asks why I had never worked with Tom before — it is something that I had always hoped would happen,” Streep said, adding, half-jokingly, “but, as he is 61 and I am 68, in Hollywood that means I would only ever have been appropriat­ely cast as his mother or his grandmothe­r.”

“Meryl is usually in movies about Meryl and Tom is in movies about Tom, and I think what was so great for them is that this was a movie about a relationsh­ip,” said “The Post” producer Amy Pascal, who acquired firsttime screenwrit­er Liz Hannah’s script for the film last fall. “It was about something that movies are never about, which is a platonic love story between a man and a woman and how they work together.”

Hanks has never shied away from expressing his own political views, to the point that over the years he’s been asked numerous times about his interest in running for office, a prospect he dismisses out of hand. “Yeah, boy, that would be fun, wouldn’t it?” he said, rolling his eyes. “Based on what? That’s what I always come back to. We have people in office who are just good on TV. I don’t think that’s what we’re looking for here.”

Since President Trump’s election, though, Hanks, like many in Hollywood, has felt compelled to become more pointedly outspoken.

“I think everybody has a point where they have to decide to go man the barricade somehow,” he said. “Some issue comes up and you just say, ‘Are you … kidding me?’ Talking about Pocahontas in front of the Navajo code talkers — if you don’t get why that might not fly, there’s no hope for you. But then, if you’ve got neo-Nazis doing a torchlight parade somewhere — no, I’m sorry, that’s a different sort of territory and that ends up being downright dangerous.”

Asked if he is worried about the nation’s future in these deeply polarized times, Hanks — who consumes endless books of history in his spare time (and recently published his own collection of short stories, “Uncommon Type: Some Stories”) — delivers an impassione­d analysis that goes on for more than nine minutes straight.

He references Joseph McCarthy, Father Coughlin, the segregatio­nist Dixiecrats of the 1940s and the protests of the Vietnam era. He touches on World War II Japanese American internment camps, FDR’s attempt to pack the Supreme Court and William Manchester’s sweeping historical tome “The Glory and the Dream.” He rhapsodize­s at length about the 1st Amendment — “It’s a doozy, man” — and sings the opening lines of the 1970s “Schoolhous­e Rock” song about the Constituti­on from memory.

A ‘resilient’ country

The bottom line? Hanks is concerned but not despairing. “We’re certainly in this spiral where disinteres­t and ignorance is holding more sway than it usually does,” he said. “But the country is very resilient. It rights itself.”

For all of his “pontificat­ing,” as he self-deprecatin­gly calls it, Hanks is well aware that he is neither an academic nor an elected leader. He is an actor and an entertaine­r, and he is perfectly content with that. “Ben Bradlee knew that he had a spirit that people dug — he would say, ‘Ah, the fun!’ I get that. I have the same thing for my job.”

Hanks, of course, also has a spirit that people dig. Indeed, he has long radiated such an easygoing charm onscreen and off that — even with five Oscar nomination­s and two wins — Streep believes he remains underappre­ciated as an actor.

“The thing about Tom is his phenomenal gift has been taken for granted for so long, his place in the Hall of Fame so confirmed over time, that sometimes I think we mistake the ease with which he delivers it as ‘easy,’ ” Streep said. “Nothing about it is easy, except his total embrace of the work.”

Accolades aside, after all these years, Hanks says he still feels as engaged with the work as he ever has, going back to the earliest days of his career when he was starring on an early-’80s sitcom that regularly involved dressing in drag for laughs.

“From something as joyful and fun as — forgive me — ‘Bosom Buddies’ to ‘The Post,’ it’s all these things where you’re examining a theme that’s locked deep in the text, where you’re trying to interpret all this behavior and words into an examinatio­n of something that’s bigger than yourself,” he said. “I think that’s a blast. I can’t think of a better way to make a buck.”

Hanks shrugged. “What can I say? I feel like I’m lucky to still be asked to show up.”

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Wally Skalij Los Angeles Times TOM HANKS says he sees uncanny comparison­s between 1971 and now. “All this time passes and nothing really changed,” he said.
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Niko Tavernise TOM HANKS, sitting, as editor Ben Bradlee in “The Post.” Also in the film are David Cross, left, John Rue, Bob Odenkirk, Judith Martin and Chalmers Roberts.

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