Los Angeles Times

The suicide conversati­on

- Paul Thornton,

As the Los Angeles Times’ letters editor, I have been struck over the years by how candidly readers often discuss issues relating to their own mortality or that of loved ones. When the paper publishes news articles or opinion pieces on, say, aid-in-dying laws or terminal illness, some readers respond by sharing their emotionall­y stirring, deeply personal experience­s on those subjects.

Where that had not typically applied was suicide and depression — at least until the last few weeks, with the deaths of fashion designer Kate Spade and chef, author and TV personalit­y Anthony Bourdain, both of whom reportedly lived with depression. Now, as mental health profession­als warn of a “suicide contagion,” there have been calls for a more open discussion on depression — and some L.A. Times readers are obliging.

Here is a handful of the reactions we’ve received to the deaths this month of Spade and Bourdain. A warning: Some may find the letters uncomforta­bly frank.

Russ Woody of Studio City gets into the head of someone who may be depressed and suicidal:

Yes, there are treatments for depression, but they are often hit and miss and certainly not permanent. By asking the depressed person to stay alive, without a reasonable or permanent solution, he or she is being asked to continue suffering

extraordin­ary pain so that those around them don’t have to feel bad.

That is what the depressed person hears, anyway. The answer lies in finding a cure, not just beseeching a suffering person to continue suffering.

Evelyn Quinn of Pasadena speaks up for sur vivors:

I’ve lived through a close letters editor

family member’s suicide and was charged with cleaning up the hideous and painful aftermath. So every time there’s another report of a celebrity suicide, my anger tears open that wound anew.

For me, dealing with the death of my loved one was something akin to being on the receiving end of a flamethrow­er. Suicide is simply an unforgivab­le act to lay at the feet of the innocent. In all likelihood, the deaths of Spade and Bourdain will emotionall­y cripple their children for life.

As a parent, I want to howl and smash things when reading about suicide. I’ve slogged my way through round after round of different medication­s and therapies fighting depression. At the front of my mind in this fight were my children and family.

The children of Bourdain and Spade might forever ask why they weren’t enough to save their parents. And for this, I can’t forgive their parents.

Fallbrook resident Joe Dimino believes that in this case, it may not be wrong to speak ill of the dead:

Since the recent celebrity suicides, there has been an outpouring of grief and consolatio­n. That’s a normal, intuitive reaction in a society that cherishes life.

But suicide is not normal. After Robin Williams took his own life in 2014, Columbia University researcher­s discovered a 10% increase in suicides over the next four months. That’s nearly 2,000 additional lives lost. Danish researcher­s found that individual­s in families with a history of suicides were two and a half times more likely to kill themselves, as opposed to individual­s in families without a suicide history.

Did Bourdain and Spade appreciate how their actions might encourage others to take their own lives? Probably not. We should shift away from paying tribute to their life accomplish­ments, because their suicides may contribute to more premature deaths. Numbers don’t lie.

 ?? Bebeto Matthews, Andy Kropa Associated Press ?? KATE SPADE in 2004 and Anthony Bourdain in 2016. Spade died on June 5; Bourdain died on June 8.
Bebeto Matthews, Andy Kropa Associated Press KATE SPADE in 2004 and Anthony Bourdain in 2016. Spade died on June 5; Bourdain died on June 8.
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