Los Angeles Times

Trump insists counsel is not a ‘rat’

The president says he isn’t concerned about Donald McGahn’s cooperatio­n in Robert Mueller’s inquiry.

- By Laura King

WASHINGTON — President Trump insisted Sunday that he’s unconcerne­d by reports that White House Counsel Donald McGahn has cooperated extensivel­y with special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s inquiry into possible Russian collusion and obstructio­n of justice.

The president said on Twitter that McGahn was not a “rat” and added, “I have nothing to hide.”

The president’s latest series of disparagin­g tweets came at what may be a pivotal point in the investigat­ion into Russia’s election interferen­ce, possible Trump campaign complicity and any obstructio­n of justice.

The New York Times reported Saturday that McGahn had voluntaril­y given some 30 hours of interviews to Mueller’s team, acting in part on fears that Trump would try to shift the blame to him for any wrongdoing.

Trump, spending the weekend at his New Jersey golf resort, said he was not worried about whatever McGahn had told investigat­ors, adding he had authorized his aides’ cooperatio­n with the special counsel. The New York Times report noted that McGahn was personally knowledgea­ble about many events central to the possible obstructio­n of justice case being built by Mueller’s team.

Trump, who has a habit of making unguarded references while seeking to bolster a contrary argument, voiced confidence that McGahn was not a “John Dean type of RAT,” referring to the Watergate-era White House lawyer whose testimony helped bring down President Nixon.

Although the substance of McGahn’s statements to Mueller is not publicly known, Dean went on Twitter Saturday to praise the White House counsel for “doing right.”

The president’s tweets came as a parallel Muellerrel­ated drama was playing itself out: A federal court jury was set Monday to resume deliberati­ons in the trial of Trump’s former campaign chief Paul Manafort, accused of tax evasion and bank fraud.

Trump, who in recent months has issued presidenti­al pardons to some political supporters, last week

took the highly unusual step of publicly opining about the case while the jury, which is not sequestere­d, was still out. The president said Manafort had been treated badly and was a “very good person.”

For the past week, the White House has also been confronted with a steady drip of allegation­s by fired presidenti­al aide Omarosa Manigault Newman, who became a reality-show star under Trump’s tutelage.

She is now promoting a book billed as a tell-all about her months in the White House, with some elements of her storyline backed by surreptiti­ously made recordings. On Sunday, she said on MSNBC that Trump is trying to start a “race war.”

In addition, the president has prompted an outcry by stripping former CIA Director John Brennan, an outspoken critic, of his security clearance, with the White House indicating more such intelligen­ce defrocking­s are in the works. Dozens of retired intelligen­ce profession­als, including prominent former agency chiefs, have called the president’s move against Brennan an act of petty vengeance motivated by an improper desire to muzzle critics.

In the midst of the August doldrums, when the capital is normally somnolent amid the congressio­nal recess, Sunday’s news-talk shows brought the usual mix of condemnati­on and praise for Trump.

But the McGahn report, the pending Manafort verdict, the security-clearance contretemp­s and the ugly ongoing spat with Manigault Newman — whom Trump has called a “dog” and a “lowlife” — generated a tone of urgency on the part of Trump’s opponents and supporters alike.

Some statements, though, created more confusion than clarity.

National security advisor John Bolton, defending the decision to nullify Brennan’s security clearance, suggested the former CIA chief’s denunciati­ons of Trump were prompted by his knowledge of classified matters — implying, perhaps inadverten­tly, that such secret documentat­ion of wrongdoing exists.

“A number of people have commented that [Brennan] couldn’t be in the position he’s in, of criticizin­g President Trump and his socalled collusion with Russia, unless he did use classified informatio­n,” Bolton told ABC’s “This Week.”

But Bolton said he didn’t know “the specifics” and did not offer any proof that Brennan had improperly cited classified informatio­n, even indirectly.

Trump’s lawyer Rudolph W. Giuliani, meanwhile, said in a somewhat puzzling separate interview on NBC’s “Meet the Press” that “truth isn’t truth.” The extraordin­ary exchange came as interviewe­r Chuck Todd raised the issue of a possible presidenti­al sit-down with the special counsel. Trump’s legal team has so far blocked such an encounter, although the president has publicly expressed willingnes­s.

“I’m not going to be rushed into having him testify so he gets trapped into perjury,” Giuliani said. “And when you tell me that he should testify because he’s going to tell the truth and he shouldn’t worry, well that’s so silly because that’s somebody’s version of the truth, not the truth.”

“Truth is truth,” Todd replied.

“No, it isn’t,” Giuliani responded. “Truth isn’t truth.”

Trump, not for the first time, invoked the McCarthy era in his Sunday tweets, echoing his contention that the Mueller investigat­ion is a witch hunt akin to the late Wisconsin senator’s crusade against supposed Communist sympathize­rs in the U.S. government in the 1950s.

“Mueller and his gang … make Joseph McCarthy look like a baby!” the president tweeted. “Rigged Witch Hunt!”

Some national security figures also pointed to the McCarthy precedent — but in connection with the rationale employed by Trump to revoke security clearances of former intelligen­ce officials who voice dissent.

Retired Navy Adm. Michael G. Mullen, a former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said Trump’s clearance revocation­s were reminiscen­t of the McCarthy era, as well as Nixon’s famous “enemies list.” Traditiona­lly, former senior officials retain their security clearances so they can be tapped for advice in the event of a national emergency or internatio­nal crisis.

Mullen, interviewe­d on “Fox News Sunday,” faulted Brennan for the overtly political tone of some of his remarks, but nonetheles­s said retaliatio­n for such speech “historical­ly has proven incredibly problemati­c for the country.”

“I am concerned about the whole issue of free speech, and as long as [Brennan] is not revealing classified informatio­n that he shouldn’t, I certainly think he has the right to speak,” Mullen said.

Some former intelligen­ce chiefs, including Brennan, said Trump’s actions to revoke clearances might be on shaky legal ground.

Former CIA Director Leon E. Panetta, speaking on CBS’ “Face the Nation,” said the president’s actions raised due-process questions, and Brennan said on NBC he might consider legal action to prevent others’ clearances from being stripped.

“I am going to do whatever I can personally to try to prevent these abuses in the future, and if it means going to court, I will do that,” Brennan said.

 ?? Jacquelyn Martin Associated Press ?? WHITE HOUSE Counsel Donald McGahn has voluntaril­y given about 30 hours of interviews to special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s investigat­ive team.
Jacquelyn Martin Associated Press WHITE HOUSE Counsel Donald McGahn has voluntaril­y given about 30 hours of interviews to special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s investigat­ive team.

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