Los Angeles Times

REAL HEROES DO CRY

Martin Scorsese said superhero movies in the Marvel Cinematic Universe don’t convey ‘emotional, psychologi­cal experience­s.’ Not everyone agrees.

- BY MICHAEL ORDOÑA

There’s more to superhero movies than those extended action sequences.

last awards season, “Black Panther” became the first comic-book movie to receive an Oscar nomination for best picture. Since then, “Avengers: Endgame” has become the highest-grossing film of all time and one of the best-reviewed movies of 2019. Todd Phillips’ recently released “Joker” won the Golden Lion at the Venice Film Festival and broke its share of box office records. Have comic-book movies finally arrived on the red carpet?

More like the rug’s being pulled from under them again. And Martin Scorsese has fibers under his fingernail­s.

Despite consistent­ly sporting sterling scores on review aggregator Rotten Tomatoes, Marvel Cinematic Universe movies rarely appear on critics’ top 10 lists and have never received Oscar nomination­s for direction, acting or writing. They remain outside that golden embrace, despite the exquisitel­y detailed filmmaking of, say, Ryan Coogler’s “Black Panther” or the taut, ’70s paranoia of “Captain America: The Winter Soldier.” Millions and millions around the world are emotionall­y connected to these movies, yet film titan Scorsese calls them “not cinema” — even those he hasn’t yet seen. Is it the tights? Scorsese, in his comments to Empire, summed up the ingrained bias when he said, “I don’t see them. I tried, you know? But that’s not cinema. … It isn’t the cinema of human beings trying to convey emotional, psychologi­cal experience­s to another human being.” He doubled down at a London Film Festival press conference: “It’s not cinema, it’s something else, we shouldn’t be invaded by it, so that is a big issue and we need the theater owners to step up to allow theaters to show films that are narrative films.”

Resentment at studios’ tentpole strategies, increasing­ly leaving adult dramas to indies and streaming services, may be in part responsibl­e for the refusal to include massive-grossing comicbook movies in awards conversati­ons. But “Avengers: Infinity War” didn’t prevent “The Farewell” or “Jojo Rabbit” or even Scorsese’s “The Irishman” from being made. In fact, Taika Waititi’s success with MCU entry “Thor: Ragnarok” likely helped his Oscar-contending “Jojo” get the green light.

Scorsese’s ire may be due in part to major exhibitors such as AMC and Regal refusing to show his 31⁄2-hour Netflix-backed “Irishman,” but that isn’t because MCU films have elbowed it out; it’s part of the ongoing dispute between theater owners and streaming services over windows of exclusivit­y.

But he’s not alone in his dismissal of the genre. Contempora­ry Francis Ford Coppola, after receiving the Prix Lumière in Lyon, France, told journalist­s he thought Scorsese was “right because we expect to learn something from cinema, we expect to gain something, some enlightenm­ent, some knowledge, some inspiratio­n.”

The director of “The Godfather” and “Captain EO” added: “Martin was kind when he said it’s not cinema. He didn’t say it’s despicable, which I just say it is.”

‘A WAY TO PRACTICE’

Andrea Letamendi, associate director of mental health training, interventi­on and response at UCLA, sees more in the best of these films than these giants of cinema do.

“Superhero films are giving us a way to practice and explore really important emotional processes that we may not be able to examine in our everyday lives. In ‘Endgame,’ the more fantastica­l, the better, because that gives us the supportive safety net to be open and vulnerable and curious about these things,” she says.

“Not to pat ourselves on the back,” says Christophe­r Markus, co-writer (with Stephen McFeely) of six MCU movies including “Endgame,” “but we snuck an hourlong movie about loss and grief into the [start of the] biggest movie of all time. That’s a lot of people who sat with that issue in their heads for an hour.”

He says of villain Thanos’ cataclysmi­c action, “We wanted the Snap to be as profound as we could make it. The way to do that was to have all the characters sit with the impact, the unfixabili­ty of it, rather than scrambling around. We were interested in seeing what happens to these people whose sole purpose in life is solving problems, faced with a problem they did not solve.”

Markus and McFeely point out their slug lines don’t read, “Iron Man” or “Captain America”; they’re “Tony” or “Steve.” Even when the characters are wearing nanotech armor or wrapped in a flag, the writers are thinking from the point of view of the human beings within.

“We didn’t sit down and say, ‘It’s the five stages of grief,’ but they sort of do go through it. Thor is really depressed. Cap has accepted it. Clint’s anger is off the rails. … We give people real arcs, hopefully,” McFeely says.

Anthony Mackie plays the Falcon in many MCU entries. He says whenever he has a movie come out, he sneaks into theaters to experience them with audiences, which he has done three times for “Endgame.”

“When Iron Man died, people were weeping. If that’s not a human, emotional experience, I don’t know what is,” he said. “There’s a connection to these characters. People invest 100%.”

Clinical psychologi­st Letamendi agrees. ”It’s a truly sophistica­ted portrayal. … How different characters cope with that loss really matters in terms of how we relate to them and how we might relate to our own losses.

“The term for that is ‘parasocial relationsh­ips’ — nondelusio­nal emotional connection­s with fictional characters,” she continued. “I know Tony Stark isn’t real but I’ve formed a longlastin­g relationsh­ip with his character, so when we see him go through these difficult changes: the adversity, his self-doubt and, ultimately, his death, this is, in our world, difficult to deal with. The grief, the confusion, sometimes the anger — those feelings are real. I think there’s some value to that.

“If we can work through some of those emotions, it makes us more emotionall­y intelligen­t. A movie like ‘Endgame’ has such an important place in our social/ emotional learning because we’re practicing important, and deeply felt, responses.”

“‘Iron Man 3’ is one of the more groundbrea­king comicbook films in its direct portrayal of alcoholism and post-traumatic stress disorder. Showing this superhero have a decline in functionin­g, isolate himself, reject relationsh­ips — that’s a very relatable experience.”

Letamendi likens the timetravel McGuffin in “Endgame” to the psychother­apeutic technique of narrative reconstruc­tion. “Sometimes it’s important to look back to the thread that winds up our history and what parts of that difficult and traumatic experience could be revisited, and even reinterpre­ted, so it fits with our sense of self. To see Thor go back, who has completely lost his way and detached from his sense of self, if he restores a part of his essential relationsh­ips — especially ones that remind him of what his core values are and what his purpose is — that’s extraordin­arily healing.”

EVERYTHING’S LABELED

Scoffing at films based on genre ignores that labels can be applied to most any film. Is “The Silence of the Lambs” just a serial killer movie? “Annie Hall” merely a romantic comedy? The presence of tights shouldn’t disqualify Olivier’s “Hamlet.” There are plenty of gods and monsters in the classics.

If genre scares you, “You can’t watch ‘The Godfather.’ That’s ‘just a mob movie.’ … Genres are just delivery devices,” McFeely notes.

Writer-director-painter Waititi agrees. “It’s kind of a form of ignorance to say comic-books and graphic novels aren’t art. They have life-changing stories and are full of emotion. They’re cinematic. [Filmmakers] steal frames, splash pages, from comic books all the time because those are real artists.”

No one is comparing “AntMan” to “Citizen Kane.” However, as “Dr. Strange” director Scott Derrickson tweeted, “Nobody should dismiss movies they haven’t seen.” And he was just one of the filmmakers taking umbrage to Scorsese’s remarks. After all, who couldn’t find five or 10 in their personal list of questionab­le best-picture winners that aren’t better than “Black Panther” or “Endgame?”

“To prejudice yourself against genre is to shutter yourself against a wide variety of things,” Markus says. “Genre, in a way, softens you up to receive human stories.”

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