Los Angeles Times

CIA officials wept at sight of waterboard­ing

A developer of the tactic who applied it many times testifies he also limited its use.

- By Terry McDermott

GUANTANAMO BAY NAVAL BASE, Cuba — The architect of the Central Intelligen­ce Agency’s postSept. 11 interrogat­ion program said Wednesday that the waterboard­ing technique he employed was so gruesome that people — including CIA officials — cried when they witnessed it.

James Mitchell testified at a pretrial hearing here in the case against Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, the confessed mastermind of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. Mohammed and four other defendants are charged with nearly 3,000 murders.

Mitchell and another psychologi­st, John “Bruce” Jessen, designed, oversaw and frequently participat­ed in what the CIA termed enhanced interrogat­ion techniques. Waterboard­ing, a simulated drowning, was one of them.

To employ the method, a prisoner would be strapped to a board placed on a modified gurney, tipped so that his head was near the ground. Under President George W. Bush, the Justice Department approved and issued guidelines for how to execute the method.

With guards steadying the gurney, Jessen would pour water onto a cloth Mitchell held over the prisoner’s mouth and nose. The water pour could last up to 20 seconds, then be paused, then another 20 seconds, paused, then 40 seconds. The subject feels as though he is drowning. Typically, the subject spasms, expels water and snot, sometimes vomit, squirms and flops on the gurney as if having a seizure. The practice is nearly universall­y condemned as torture.

Mitchell used the technique on at least three men, including Mohammed. This week, he testified that he would do it again if he believed he had to, but also said that the results repulsed him.

The first person to be subjected to the method was Abu Zubaydah, an Al Qaeda functionar­y and the first socalled high-value detainee captured after Sept. 11. He was waterboard­ed 83 times in August 2002, according to an investigat­ion by the Senate Select Committee on Intelligen­ce.

After Abu Zubaydah started cooperatin­g with interrogat­ors at a secret prison in Thailand in 2002, Mitchell and Jessen sought to stop using the waterboard. Officers at CIA headquarte­rs in Virginia accused the two of having lost their nerve.

“They said that we were pussies, that we had lost our spine,” Mitchell testified. The CIA officers said that if another attack by Al Qaeda occurred, Mitchell and Jessen “would have the blood of dead Americans on their hands.”

Mitchell told the officers he would continue only if they came and witnessed the waterboard­ing, to “bring their rubber boots and come on down.” Which they did.

They assembled in Abu Zubaydah’s cell, which Mitchell described as small with an unpleasant, musky odor. The psychologi­sts performed what Mitchell said was a dialed-back version of the technique. “I don’t want to use the word ‘perfunctor­y’ for something that horrible, but, yeah,” he said.

It didn’t seem perfunctor­y to the visitors, many of whom began to cry. “Their decision after witnessing this is that we don’t need to do this,” he said.

Mitchell has been a vigorous defender of the torture program.

His descriptio­n of himself as playing a role to limit the use of the program is confoundin­g, especially because he went on to waterboard two more men, including Mohammed, who was waterboard­ed 183 times. He testified that waterboard­ing was a step in a process; he urged the end of it for Abu Zubaydah because it had served its purpose. Abu Zubaydah was cooperatin­g, he said, and might cease to cooperate if it were resumed.

He said his objections to specific harsh techniques weren’t limited to Thailand. He later attempted to stop what he regarded as rogue interrogat­ion techniques at another so-called black site, in Afghanista­n, he said. He confronted an interrogat­or there and later reported him to CIA headquarte­rs.

“There are two kinds of people in the world, in my opinion,” Mitchell said. “There are those who ask permission and those who ask forgivenes­s. He was an ask-forgivenes­s kind of guy.”

The man was later withdrawn from the site.

Mitchell during two days of testimony has repeated several claims that his interrogat­ion techniques produced actionable intelligen­ce. Some of those claims are contradict­ed by other research. For example, he says that the interrogat­ion of Abu Zubaydah helped the CIA locate Ramzi Binalshibh, one of Mohammed’s fellow defendants. Binalshibh is alleged to have been Mohammed’s chief subordinat­e in coordinati­ng the Sept. 11 plot.

Binalshibh was captured in Karachi, Pakistan, in 2002 after he and Mohammed granted an interview to Al Jazeera reporter Yosri Fouda, who disclosed their location to his bosses. One of them relayed the informatio­n to the CIA director at the time, George Tenet. The CIA and Pakistani security officials used the informatio­n and other tips to identify several possible apartments. They raided them that September. Mohammed was gone, but Binalshibh was captured after an hours-long gun battle.

Human rights advocates have repeatedly denounced the torture program as ineffectiv­e and brutal. Joseph Margulies, a law professor at Cornell University who once represente­d Abu Zubaydah, said the brutal methods helped numb America to wrongdoing.

“James Mitchell and Bruce Jessen conceived, designed and executed the first officially recognized torture program in U.S. history,” Margulies said in an email.

“It is one thing that they are utterly unapologet­ic; that is a commentary on them. But it is something else altogether that so much of the rest of the country is utterly indifferen­t; that is a commentary on us. A wrong that escapes public condemnati­on is no wrong at all. Worse, it invites not simply repetition, but expansion.

“Yesterday, we tortured men in cages because we thought they had done something wrong; today, we torture children at the border knowing they have done no wrong at all.”

Mitchell is scheduled to return to the stand Thursday.

McDermott is a special correspond­ent.

 ?? Associated Press ?? KHALID Shaikh Mohammed, the self-proclaimed mastermind of Sept. 11, was waterboard­ed 183 times.
Associated Press KHALID Shaikh Mohammed, the self-proclaimed mastermind of Sept. 11, was waterboard­ed 183 times.

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