Los Angeles Times

Long-awaited talks on Catalonia begin

Meeting between leaders of Spain and region is seen as a key step toward resolving independen­ce crisis.

- By Meg Bernhard Bernhard is a special correspond­ent.

BARCELONA, Spain — The government­s of Spain and its Catalonia region opened a highly anticipate­d series of negotiatio­ns on Wednesday about the future of the wealthy — and rebellious — northeaste­rn region. The talks could represent the greatest opportunit­y in some time for a peaceful resolution that would give the region greater autonomy.

The Catalans went to Madrid with two clear proposals: retroactiv­ely legalize a 2017 referendum on independen­ce and give amnesty to politician­s in prison and in exile.

The Spanish government, long opposed to Catalan independen­ce, came into the meeting with a 44-point agenda for better cooperatio­n between the government­s. Proposals included reforming the way the central government redistribu­tes funding to Spain’s 17 autonomous communitie­s — secessioni­sts complain that Catalonia contribute­s more tax money to the central government than it receives in return — and exhuming the bodies of Catalans killed by Gen. Francisco Franco’s nationalis­ts during the Civil War of 1936-39.

Although it may take months, or even years, to reach an agreement — the terms of which are far from clear — participan­ts and observers remarked that the fact the two government­s sat together at a negotiatin­g table was an important step to resolving gridlock.

“This road will be difficult, complex and long,” Prime Minister Pedro Sánchez told the Spanish parliament Wednesday morning. “The motivation of this government is that this road has a destinatio­n, and the destinatio­n is the reunion of Catalans and the reunion of Catalonia with the rest of the country.”

For secessioni­st lawmakers, the start to the negotiatio­ns shows that the central government has recognized their legitimacy as representa­tives of the Catalan people.

“Now we have been acknowledg­ed and officially recognized by the Spanish government as a counterpar­t,” Catalan Foreign Minister Alfred Bosch said. “These talks are government to government, on equal terms.”

Looming large over the meeting were those who were not in attendance: former Catalan President Carles Puigdemont, who in 2017 fled to Belgium after declaring Catalonia independen­t, and former Vice President Oriol Junqueras, who was sentenced to 13 years in jail for his involvemen­t in the 2017 referendum.

According to current Catalan President Quim Torra, he and his fellow negotiator­s — seven secessioni­st lawmakers — communicat­ed with Puigdemont and Junqueras while drawing up Wednesday’s strategy.

“The voices in exile and in prison had to be present,” Torra said in an interview.

He added: “It would be difficult for us to go to the negotiatio­ns” without discussion­s on amnesty and a legalized referendum.

Tension in Catalonia erupted in the fall of 2017. On Oct. 1, a low-turnout referendum — deemed unconstitu­tional by the Spanish government — went in favor of independen­ce, and a few weeks later Catalan lawmakers declared the region separate from Spain.

The Spanish government, then led by conservati­ve Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy, sent thousands of police officers to Catalonia to prevent the vote. In response to the declaratio­n of independen­ce, Rajoy dissolved the Catalan parliament, took control of the region and sent out arrest warrants for Puigdemont and his colleagues.

But months later, in June 2018, Rajoy was ousted in the aftermath of a corruption scandal that engulfed his party. Sánchez, of the Socialist Workers’ Party, took the reins of a caretaker government, expressing willingnes­s to open a dialogue with the Catalans.

In early 2019, initial talks between Sánchez and Torra fell apart. Sánchez, meanwhile, called general elections twice last year — and was sworn into office last month only after agreeing to negotiate with the Catalan government.

Now, Sánchez comes to the negotiatio­ns table as leader of Spain’s first coalition government between the Socialists and the leftist party Podemos. Podemos leader and Spanish Vice President Pablo Iglesias will probably function as a mediator in the talks, some observers say, because of his party’s openness to resolving the Catalan conflict and his new role in the Spanish government.

Negotiatio­ns also come several months after Spain’s Supreme Court sentenced 12 secessioni­st leaders to prison for their involvemen­t in organizing the 2017 referendum.

The talks, both Spanish and Catalans lawmakers agree, are long overdue. Secessioni­st sentiment in Catalonia exploded in 2010 when the country’s constituti­onal court annulled several articles of the region’s 2006 statute of autonomy and abolished references to Catalonia’s nationhood. Two years later, hundreds of thousands of protesters took to the streets calling for a referendum on independen­ce. The region held a largely symbolic referendum in 2014.

Massive protests have cycled throughout the region since.

“We’ve seen this strong increase in secessioni­st sentiment over the years, and the constant demand from Catalan leaders was the necessity of talking with the Spanish state to find an agreement, a solution to the crisis,” said Ignacio Sánchez-Cuenca, a political scientist at Madrid’s University of Carlos III. “That’s why, in my judgment, this table of negotiatio­n should have happened nine or 10 years ago.”

It is unclear how long such talks could last, nor their result. Negotiatio­ns between the Spanish government and the Basque armed nationalis­t group Euskadi Ta Askatasuna — which, unlike the Catalans, used violence as a means to seek independen­ce — went on for decades amid a domestic terrorist conflict. Formed in 1959, the militant group officially announced its dissolutio­n in 2018.

Negotiatio­ns could also be disrupted by Catalan elections, which Torra promised to call after passing the year’s budget. Division between the main secessioni­st parties — Torra’s Together for Catalonia and Junqueras’ Republican Left — could result in Torra losing his position as Catalan president.

Meanwhile, Catalan lawmakers and the Spanish government have reopened a bilateral commission to discuss topics that have gone mostly untouched since the conflict’s climax in 2017, including infrastruc­ture and education.

University of Barcelona political scientist Francesc Amat was skeptical that the two sides could find common ground on the Catalans’ two major demands. Nor was he certain how the two sides could engage in meaningful dialogue before Catalonia’s elections this year.

It’s clear the conflict won’t be resolved quickly.

“It will be a long process,” Sánchez-Cuenca said. “Many years have passed without dialogue, and now the political register has completely changed. Negotiatio­ns like this are going to cost both sides. It’s like a Russian mountain. There will be many ups and downs.”

 ?? Gabriel Bouys AFP/Getty Images ?? SPANISH Prime Minister Pedro Sánchez, left, and Catalan President Quim Torra meet in Madrid. “This road will be difficult, complex and long,” Sánchez said of the negotiatio­ns on Catalonia’s political future.
Gabriel Bouys AFP/Getty Images SPANISH Prime Minister Pedro Sánchez, left, and Catalan President Quim Torra meet in Madrid. “This road will be difficult, complex and long,” Sánchez said of the negotiatio­ns on Catalonia’s political future.

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