Los Angeles Times

Quiet reassuranc­es on WeChat ban

White House tries to calm Apple and other American companies that stand to lose big.

- By Jennifer Jacobs, Saleha Mohsin and Jenny Leonard Jacobs, Moshin and Leonard write for Bloomberg. Bloomberg writers Mark Gurman and Naomi Nix contribute­d to this report.

The Trump administra­tion is privately seeking to reassure U.S. companies including Apple Inc. that they can still do business with the WeChat messaging app in China, according to several people familiar with the matter, two weeks after President Trump ordered a U.S. ban on the Chineseown­ed service.

In recent days, senior administra­tion officials have been reaching out to some companies, realizing that the impact of an all-out ban on the popular app, owned by China’s Tencent Holdings Ltd., could be devastatin­g for U.S. technology, retail, gaming, telecommun­ications and other industries, people familiar with the discussion­s said.

Apple is one of the companies that could stand to lose the most from the WeChat ban because China represents a fifth of its sales. Apple also relies on China for a large chunk of its manufactur­ing, which could be affected if the Chinese government decided to retaliate.

Representa­tives for Apple, Treasury and the White House declined to comment. A spokespers­on for Tencent, one of China’s biggest companies, didn’t respond to requests for comment.

The administra­tion is still working through the technical implicatio­ns of how to enforce a partial ban on the app, and a key question is whether the White House would allow Apple and Alphabet Inc.’s Google to offer the app in their global app stores outside the U.S., and if so, where, according to the people, who spoke on condition of anonymity.

Senior administra­tion officials are deliberati­ng over the scope of the ban ordered by Trump, one of the people said, and the president could ultimately overrule anything they decide.

The administra­tion cited the national security risk of leaving Americans’ personal data exposed to China in announcing the ban earlier this month.

The officials expect that WeChat won’t completely vanish in the U.S., but their aim is to prohibit any downloads or updates of the app in the country, according to three of the people.

For example, travelers coming into the U.S. who have WeChat on their phones probably will be able to use the app, but they won’t be able to update it.

That means that the WeChat version of a nonU.S. resident staying in the country for a longer period would probably become obsolete over time, the people said.

Trump is escalating his fight with Beijing three months before the November presidenti­al elections and has blamed China for the COVID-19 pandemic.

In addition to Trump’s ban on WeChat and a related order barring business with the popular Chinese-owned TikTok video app, the administra­tion has made other moves to pressure Beijing. Those include sanctions on the top official in Hong Kong and recommenda­tions that American stock exchanges set new rules that could trigger the delisting of Chinese companies.

A partial WeChat ban could mean that companies like Apple could offer it in their China app stores and businesses like Starbucks Corp. could continue to sell coffee or accept payment via the app in China. The intention is to prohibit any downloads or updates of the WeChat app from U.S. app stores, two of the people said.

High-level administra­tion officials, including Treasury Secretary Steven T. Mnuchin, economic advisor Larry Kudlow, White House counsel Pat Cipollone and Deputy National Security Advisor Matt Pottinger met Tuesday to discuss the WeChat ban, said two people familiar with the matter.

The discussion­s follow Trump’s Aug. 6 executive order prohibitin­g U.S. residents and companies from doing business with WeChat starting in mid-September, which set off alarm bells across U.S. companies with operations in China. WeChat is an indispensa­ble part of doing business in the country and selling products to consumers there.

In recent weeks, U.S. companies and their lobbyists went into overdrive, asking staffers in the White House and the Commerce Department about the logistics and intention of the WeChat executive order, according to people familiar with the matter.

“We are talking to everyone who will listen to us,” said Craig Allen, president of the US-China Business Council, which represents companies including Walmart and General Motors Co. “WeChat is a little like electricit­y. You use it everywhere” in China, Allen said.

He didn’t confirm conversati­ons with the administra­tion but said his group has been trying to illustrate the “downsides to an expansive interpreta­tion of the order.”

Among the questions that have been raised include whether the order would ban American companies that have a presence in China or Chinese subsidiari­es of those companies from accepting payment for their products through WeChat, the people said. The lobbyists also wanted a better definition of what the administra­tion would consider a “transactio­n” under the order, the people said.

Representa­tives from the National Retail Federation and the Retail Industry Leaders Assn., which represents companies such as Best Buy Co., Target Corp. and Lowe’s Cos., are among the lobbyists who have raised questions, the people said.

WeChat is the world’s most popular messaging app, with more than a billion users. Banning the app, even just in the U.S., could shut down personal communicat­ions between America and China. It would also disrupt operations of internatio­nal companies that rely on the app for cross-border business.

“If the business community can’t use WeChat in China, from advertisin­g to processing payments, it’s a shortcut to decoupling the two economies,” said Samm Sacks, a fellow at the New America think tank in Washington.

Sacks said shutting down the ability to use WeChat in the U.S. will push Americans working with Chinese colleagues and businesses to mimic the elaborate workaround­s that Chinese use to reach the outside internet.

Shares of Tencent plunged as much as 10% after Trump’s Aug. 6 executive order, erasing nearly $35 billion in market value as investors worried that the tech conglomera­te’s gaming operations and other business interests in the U.S. would be under threat. Tencent holds a large stake in “Fortnite” maker Epic Games Inc., owns “League of Legends” developer Riot Games Inc. and has invested in Uber Technologi­es Inc. and Snap Inc.

The next day, the company hired its first lobbyist in Washington, former Treasury Department counsel Roberto Gonzalez, according to a federal filing.

A narrower ban would be a relief for Apple, whose iPhone sales would take a hit in China. The company’s investors also worried that Trump’s order could prompt China to retaliate by restrictin­g manufactur­ing in the country, where Apple makes a large chunk of its products.

 ?? Mark Schiefelbe­in Associated Press ?? ABOUT A FIFTH of Apple’s sales come from China, where the messaging app WeChat is a ubiquitous part of daily life. Trump officials are grappling with the business implicatio­ns of the president’s ban on the program.
Mark Schiefelbe­in Associated Press ABOUT A FIFTH of Apple’s sales come from China, where the messaging app WeChat is a ubiquitous part of daily life. Trump officials are grappling with the business implicatio­ns of the president’s ban on the program.

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