Los Angeles Times

1960’ s remote debate

Meeting separately but still together? Kennedy and Nixon got there first.

- BY STEPHEN BATTAGLIO

President Trump has created a maelstrom over his refusal to participat­e in a virtual debate with his Democratic opponent, former Vice President Joe Biden.

The Commission on Presidenti­al Debates wanted the candidates to appear remotely for their second meeting, originally scheduled for Thursday, because of Trump’s recent bout with COVID- 19. The president refused, insisting his health was fine for an inperson appearance. Trump and his surrogates also suggested that a remote setup would allow Biden to cheat and “read the answers off a computer screen.”

The dispute has resulted in the day’s competing live town halls — Trump on NBC and Biden on ABC, both at 5 p. m. Pacific — forcing viewers to choose instead of seeing an exchange of views in a single forum.

History shows it could have been avoided.

In 1960, Richard M. Nixon and John F. Kennedy brought presidenti­al politics into the television era when they agreed to a series of joint appearance­s that were simulcast across the three major broadcast networks: ABC, CBS and NBC. The candidates committed to four meetings — which became known as the “Great Debates” — over four weeks in the fall of that year.

But the pursuit of the 270 electoral votes needed to win the presidency required a lot of time pressing the f lesh in a lot of places for Nixon, then the Republican vice president, and Kennedy, the Democratic junior senator from Massachuse­tts.

“In 1960 over 20 states were considered real battlegrou­nds, as opposed to about half that today,” said Larry Sabato, director of the Center for Politics at the University of Virginia. “The candidates had to move around a lot.”

The f irst debate took place at the studios of the CBS station in Chicago on Sept. 26, 1960, followed by a second meeting at NBC’s Washington bureau on Oct. 7. The third event was scheduled for Oct. 13, when the candidates planned to be on separate coasts.

“When the negotiator­s for the campaigns realized the candidates would be far apart on a preferred day, it’s my understand­ing that the TV execs effectivel­y said, ‘ We can do this with new technology,’ and maybe they even saw this as a gimmick,” Sabato said.

Satellite delivery of TV signals did not begin until 1962, but television networks were able to broadcast live pictures from different locations using AT& T’s phone lines. Millions of viewers saw NBC use a version of this technology every night on “The Huntley- Brinkley Report,” which frequently switched between the network’s New York and Washington studios.

The campaigns agreed to a broadcast in which the candidates would interact

from separate locations. Kennedy appeared from ABC’s New York studio on West 66th Street in Manhattan. Nixon was in the network’s Los Angeles studios at Prospect Avenue and Talmadge Street.

Separate, together

ABC took painstakin­g measures to make sure neither candidate had an advantage. The network built identical sets 3,000 miles apart — 35 feet wide and 12 feet deep with brown wood paneling and an American f lag in the background. A can of the paint used on Kennedy’s desk in New York was even f lown to Los Angeles and applied to Nixon’s desk.

Extra cameras and audio equipment were installed in both cities to make sure neither candidate would be at a disadvanta­ge in the event of a technical failure. The separate locations also allowed each candidate to control his own studio temperatur­e, which had been a source of conf lict in the previous two debates. Nixon, who had a tendency to perspire, had his L. A. set chilled to around 60 degrees, while Kennedy kept his New York quarters at 72 degrees.

The moderator, ABC News anchor Bill Shadel, and a panel of four journal

ists from NBC News, CBS News, a magazine called the Reporter, and the New York Herald Tribune newspaper gathered in a separate Los Angeles studio where the control room was also based. The candidates could see the questioner­s and each other only through TV monitors.

The twin sets were intended to create a seamless look for what ABC promoted as “the most technicall­y complicate­d broadcast in history.” But Nixon and Kennedy appeared on a split screen together for only about 15 seconds, when they were introduced to viewers by Shadel.

The one- hour broadcast came off without any technical glitches. But charges of rule- breaking arose immediatel­y after it ended.

The campaigns had a spoken agreement that the candidates would not have any prepared notes on set. But a few minutes before the debate began, Nixon caught a glimpse of a TV monitor showing Kennedy shuff ling at least two stacks of paper at the desk where he stood in New York. When the issue was raised after the debate, Kennedy’s press secretary Pierre Salinger said the papers were not notes but rather copies of correspond

ence from then- President Dwight D. Eisenhower to a senator, from which the candidate quoted. When one of the pool reporters covering the event noted that there were as many as eight pages laid out in front of Kennedy, Salinger conferred with his boss and found that Kennedy also had photostat copies from a book by a former Army chief of staff and some quotes from the late Secretary of State John Foster Dulles.

John Daly, vice president of news and public affairs for ABC, said the networks believed that the use of notes was not permitted. But Daly — who was also the moderator of the CBS quiz show “What’s My Line?”— added little clarity when he issued a statement that said he could “only presume that the verbatim text of public documents was not included in the restrictio­ns” and as a result did not intervene.

Kennedy also offered a rationale. “If I’m going to quote the president of the United States on a matter of national security, he should be quoted accurately,” he told the Associated Press.

Nixon reportedly appeared agitated over the matter after the debate. But with no Twitter or cable news to fan the f lames in 1960, he simply grumbled to reporters that the rules needed to be more clear the next time the candidates met — on Oct. 21. The vice president exited the studio and headed with his wife, Pat, and an entourage to dinner at Perino’s, a Wilshire Boulevard eatery popular with celebritie­s and politician­s.

“It never became much of an issue,” Sabato said. “A tempest in the debate teapot.”

Television- savvy

Historians regarded the long- distance face- off as Nixon’s best performanc­e of the four debates, but the events overall clearly benefited the more television­savvy Kennedy, who won the election.

Nixon — elected to the White House eight years later — did become more comfortabl­e with the trappings of the still nascent medium. He used the services of Claude Thompson, NBC’s top makeup artist in Hollywood ( he worked regularly with Bob Hope), for his Los Angeles appearance. Many pundits attribute Nixon’s perceived loss of the first debate a couple of weeks earlier to his refusal to wear makeup, making him appear pallid and in need of a shave compared to his tanned, youthful opponent.

Even during what is now looked back on as a more genteel era in presidenti­al politics, there was no shortage of conspiracy theories. A TV critic for Variety who monitored the third debate said Nixon’s receding hairline looked more robust than usual and insisted he must have been wearing a toupee.

Still, that remote debate 60 years ago worked — with 64 million viewers, it was the second most watched of the four Nixon- Kennedy matchups. Presidenti­al historian Michael Beschloss believes a health crisis is a compelling enough reason to try it again.

“In the midst of a ruinous pandemic, the wisest approach would always be to stage a debate remotely,” Beschloss said, “just as Kennedy and Nixon did successful­ly in 1960.”

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