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Q&A’s about impeachmen­t trial of Trump

- By Sarah D. Wire Doyle McManus Letter from Washington columnist has the day off.

WASHINGTON — Formal delivery by the House of an article of impeachmen­t against former President Trump shifted focus to the Senate, which will hold a trial soon to determine whether to convict him on a charge of inciting the Jan. 6 riot at the Capitol.

Never before has an impeachmen­t process moved so quickly or has a trial taken place after a president left office, and because of that lack of precedent, there are a whole lot of questions that really smart people are arguing about.

Let’s take a look at what we know.

Can the Senate convict a president who isn’t in office anymore?

Jumping straight into the deep end, huh? This is a difficult question to answer, and even constituti­onal experts don’t agree.

“It’s not one of these clear-cut things,” Rutgers political science professor and impeachmen­t expert Ross Baker said. “There’s certainly no constituti­onal prohibitio­n against it.”

Article 1 of the Constituti­on gives the House sole power to impeach a president and the Senate sole power over whether to convict. As such, each chamber largely sets the rules or procedures it follows during impeachmen­t and the trial.

So to that end, the Senate can pretty much set its own rules. And once the House impeached Trump, it became harder for the Senate to do nothing. “Once the impeachmen­t happened, the Senate had to have a trial. The Constituti­on gives no choice,” Baker said.

But a growing number of Republican­s now say that even though they agree that Trump’s actions were wrong and impeachabl­e, it’s too late to hold a trial because he has left office.

Republican­s and some constituti­onal scholars argue that the basic purpose of impeachmen­t and conviction is to provide Congress with a way to remove someone from office for committing gross offenses against the country, rather than waiting for the next election. The process was designed to balance the powers of Congress and a sitting president, not a private citizen, they say.

As such, the case against Trump should have ended with his departure Jan. 20, they say. Trump’s attorney’s may also argue the Senate trial is unconstitu­tional.

Is there really no historical precedent?

Not for a president. The closest example in history is the 1876 case of War Secretary William Belknap, who raced to the White House to submit his resignatio­n moments before the House began voting to impeach him for corruption.

Wary of letting someone using resignatio­n as a way to escape penalty, the House passed five articles of impeachmen­t, charging Belknap with “criminally disregardi­ng his duty as Secretary of War and basely prostituti­ng his high office to his lust for private gain.”

The Senate also determined it retained jurisdicti­on to impeach former government officials, and held a trial. The Senate fell short of the two-thirds vote threshold to convict as required in the Constituti­on, and Belknap was acquitted.

The first impeachmen­t in history, that of Sen. William Blount, is also similar but resulted in a different outcome.

Blount, the first senator from Tennessee, was expelled from the Senate in 1797 after being accused of conspiring with the British to seize control of Louisiana and Florida from the Spanish, something that would have benefited him financiall­y.

The House impeached Blount after he was expelled. The Senate determined during his 1799 trial that it didn’t have jurisdicti­on to convict him, and the case was dismissed. Unfortunat­ely, the Senate deliberate­d in private, and the resolution it passed to announce that it didn’t have jurisdicti­on failed to state why. Was it because as a senator Blount wasn’t a “civil officer” as described in the Constituti­on? Or because he was no longer in office? We don’t know.

What’s the point of convicting a president already out of office?

The Constituti­on allows the Senate — if it convicts — to also vote to bar the person from ever holding elected office again.

The Senate has disqualifi­ed only three people from holding future office, all federal judges. Conviction today takes 67 senators, an extremely high bar considerin­g the 50-50 party split in the Senate. But the Constituti­on is silent on how many senators must approve stripping the ability to hold office again, and in the past, the Senate has required only a simple majority.

Following through with the trial is also a way to enforce that elected or civil officers cannot avoid punishment by resigning or because their actions took place at the end of their term, said University of Virginia law professor Saikrishna Prakash, who is among those constituti­onal scholars who say the Senate can convict Trump.

“An officer cannot terminate the process by just quitting and say, ‘Ha ha. You can’t get me,’ ” Prakash said.

Will it go to court?

Perhaps. Trump might try to file a lawsuit, but whether the courts are willing to wade into a power the Constituti­on specifical­ly delegates to Congress is another question.

There seem to be two rules of thought here.

In its 1993 Nixon vs. United States decision involving a Mississipp­i federal judge, the Supreme Court said the Senate has a right to determine its own impeachmen­t procedures.

“My guess is the Supreme Court would not review this case. The impeachmen­t power of Congress is very, very broad,” said Julian Epstein, who was chief counsel for the House Judiciary Committee during President Clinton’s impeachmen­t. “It’s sort of a non-reviewable power. It would be an extreme step for the court to step in.”

Courts could also argue that Trump has no standing to sue until and unless the Senate convicts him and bars him from holding office again.

Will Chief Justice Roberts preside?

Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. is not expected to preside.

The Constituti­on says, “When the president of the United States is tried, the chief justice shall preside.”

Experts disagree on whether that means he is supposed to preside in this unpreceden­ted situation, and Roberts reportedly signaled he would rather not.

So who is in charge then?

The responsibi­lity falls to Senate President Pro Tempore Patrick J. Leahy (DVt.).

The Constituti­on doesn’t specifical­ly state who presides in nonpreside­ntial impeachmen­ts. In the majority of those other impeachmen­t trials, the Senate president pro tempore has presided.

Since Trump isn’t in office, who pays for his lawyers?

Conservati­ve interest groups could help foot the bills, as they did when Trump was impeached in 2019. The Republican National Committee could help. Or Trump could set up a legal defense fund.

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