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RISKY BUSINESS?

Experts split on the risk of dining indoors even if vaccinated

- By Grace Dickinson » The Philadelph­ia Inquirer

“When people congregate in restaurant­s, it sends a message that it’s OK for everyone to do those things, when the reality is, we still only have a little less than a quarter of the population that has received one dose of the vaccine. Short of large gatherings, dining in restaurant­s is one of the most risky situations to be in.”

— Craig Shapiro, pediatric infectious diseases specialist

Once you’re vaccinated, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention have officially OK’d having friends over for dinner if they’re vaccinated, too.

The guidelines also say that once vaccinated, you can have a mask-less, indoor hangout even if your guests aren’t vaccinated, as long as you’re gathering with people from a single household, and no one in that household (or anyone they live with) has an increased risk for severe illness from COVID-19. In other

words, even if you’re weeks away from that first shot, you needn’t necessaril­y wait to break bread with your vaccinated parents or grandparen­ts.

It’s something we’ve all been yearning for, and in many ways, it feels like the first step toward a return to some sort of normalcy. But what about indoor dining at a restaurant, where you won’t be able to predict the vaccinatio­n statuses of other patrons and staff? The CDC guidelines don’t specifical­ly address this topic. They do, however, encourage everyone, vaccinated or not, to continue avoiding medium- and large-sized gatherings, and wear a mask and social distance when in public spaces.

In mid-March, the CDC also published a report that concluded, “mask mandates and restrictin­g any on-premises dining at restaurant­s can help limit community transmissi­on of COVID-19.” It looked at 2020 county-level data from March 1 to Dec. 31 and found that on-site dining

was linked to an increase in case counts and death rates 41 to 80 days after reopening. While the study doesn’t prove cause and effect, it adds to existing research that indoor spaces make it easier for the virus to spread.

Yet, this data was captured before wide-scale vaccinatio­ns started rolling out. Today, more than a million people a day are getting their first shot. Opinions about the safety of indoor dining after you’re fully vaccinated aren’t universal. We talked to experts across the spectrum to weigh in on the risks, and what would make them feel comfortabl­e dining inside a restaurant.

The end of this pandemic finally feels within view, but some experts would like to see the country get closer to herd immunity before returning to indoor dining.

Herd immunity is considered to be achieved when between 70% to 90% of the country has been vaccinated or recovered from COVID-19 infection.

Effective, but

“The vaccines are very effective but they’re not 100-percent, and we do have variants that are circulatin­g and still being researched,” says Darren Mareiniss, an emergency medicine doctor at Einstein Medical Center. “If our case numbers and our positive tests rates were significan­tly lower, let’s say below 2 or 3%, then I might be more apt to eat inside.”

On the other hand, some experts say you don’t need to wait, given the vaccines’ effectiven­ess, both in clinical trials and in emerging real world studies. This is assuming health department guidelines are being followed, like table distancing and mask wearing.

“I would feel comfortabl­e indoor dining with a small group, and by small group, I mean one other person or family that’s at low risk of having any complicati­ons,” says Neal Goldstein, an assistant research professor of epidemiolo­gy and biostatist­ics at Drexel University. “This is based on the effectiven­ess of the vaccinatio­n and the current minimal risk. And that’s the fine line. I’d love to say that there’s no risk here, and I can’t say that. But there’s minimal risk, and that’s what we’re going to have to deal with for the near future.”

Wrong message

There’s no doubt that once you’re vaccinated, your risk significan­tly drops, whether you’re headed into the grocery store or your favorite restaurant. To some degree, your decision-making will depend on your tolerance for the risk that remains. But there are other factors to consider, too.

“I don’t dine in person, but it’s not because I’m concerned about my personal risk,” says Craig Shapiro, a pediatric infectious diseases specialist at Nemours/Alfred I. duPont Hospital for Children. “When people congregate in restaurant­s, it sends a message that it’s OK for everyone to do those things, when the reality is, we still only have a little less than a quarter of the population that has received one dose of the vaccine. Short of large gatherings, dining in restaurant­s is one of the most risky situations to be in.”

By nature, restaurant­s bring together multiple households in the same space, without everyone wearing masks. The more people in the restaurant, the greater the risk, especially now, when the majority of the country remains unvaccinat­ed.

“Even if you’ve been vaccinated, there’s a risk of you potentiall­y becoming infected, and we’re also concerned you could still transmit asymptomat­ically to other people in the restaurant,” says Mareiniss.

No vaccine is ever 100% effective, and researcher­s are still studying how effective the COVID-19 vaccines are against multiple circulatin­g variants, as well as if you can be a silent carrier when you’re vaccinated. Until there’s more data, Mareiniss encourages caution.

Bigger risks

However, early research in both of these areas is pointing in a positive direction, and Goldstein says there are bigger risks we must tackle — the main one being vaccine hesitancy.

“Unfortunat­ely when we tell people, ‘Why get vaccinated if nothing changes?’, it seems to disincenti­vize getting vaccinated, and vaccinatio­n is the best tool that we have right now to get back to normal,” says Goldstein. “Once vaccinated, you dramatical­ly lower the risk to yourself and others and should be able to enjoy eating in a restaurant.”

Preliminar­y data from Israel suggests that people vaccinated with the Pfizer vaccine have a viral load four times lower than unvaccinat­ed people, which may indicate it’s less likely that you could transmit the virus.

“It’s not clinical trial evidence — those studies are still underway — but I’m optimistic that a vaccinated person won’t spread the virus, and with the right safety precaution­s at the restaurant, I believe it’s a minimal concern,” says Goldstein.

Shapiro also believes this isn’t a primary concern, but says community transmissi­on rates aren’t yet low enough to let down our guard. There are other ways vaccinated people can spread the virus — and that’s if you get infected. Current variants make it challengin­g to predict your exact risk of getting infected.

“You’re not likely to need hospitaliz­ation or die , but does that mean you couldn’t spread it to someone else? No, and you’re increasing that risk by entering an environmen­t that we know is particular­ly risky,” says Shapiro.

“It’s a tightrope we’re walking. We want people to get vaccinated, we want to give them hope, and getting the vaccine does make it safer to do more things,” says Shapiro. “If you are going to dine in, the most important things are going to be spacing, mask wearing, ventilatio­n, and the cleaning processes.” Shapiro recommends calling in advance. If a place can’t communicat­e their safety measures, choose another restaurant.

Is outdoor OK?

As the weather heats up, outdoor dining becomes a more practical option, and the good news is that even many of the most cautious experts say they’d feel comfortabl­e dining outdoors once fully vaccinated.

“I’d be totally fine eating outdoors and with low risk people,” says Mareiniss. “But everyone in their household must be low risk. If grandma’s at home, I wouldn’t eat with them.”

Goldstein says he’d choose outdoors, too, if sharing a meal with people who aren’t yet vaccinated. And Shapiro says he’d always recommend outdoor dining over indoor when it’s an option. As more people become vaccinated, advice is expected to evolve.

“At some point, we also have to understand this virus isn’t disappeari­ng,” says Shapiro. “It’s going to become part of our daily lives, just like influenza or any other respirator­y virus, and at some point we are going to have to accept those risks, albeit hopefully when they become even smaller, but that risk is never going to be zero. Once we can be in an environmen­t and know everyone is vaccinated, that’s the best that we can do.”

 ?? BUNDO KIM — UNSPLASH ?? Opinions about the safety of indoor dining after you’re fully vaccinated aren’t universal.
BUNDO KIM — UNSPLASH Opinions about the safety of indoor dining after you’re fully vaccinated aren’t universal.

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