Miami Herald

DeSantis calls Russia’s Ukraine war a ‘territoria­l dispute’

- BY MICHAEL WILNER mwilner@mcclatchyd­c.com

As a junior U.S. congressma­n from Florida in 2014, Ron DeSantis accused Moscow of “violating Ukrainian sovereignt­y,” accused Russian President Vladimir Putin of creating a “pretext” to invade its neighbor and sought assurances from the Obama administra­tion that the United States would stand by its NATO allies.

In contrast, DeSantis now calls Russia’s invasion of Ukraine a “territoria­l dispute” that is not core to U.S. interests, a position that he made clear this week in a statement to a Fox News host.

DeSantis is now Florida’s governor and is expected to run for president in 2024.

His apparent policy reversal comes amid a debate within the Republican Party over whether the United States should continue supporting Ukraine and the NATO alliance — the foundation of security in Europe since the end of World War II. That debate began when former President Donald Trump in 2016 openly questioned U.S. commitment­s to European defense.

Russian forces invaded and occupied the Ukrainian peninsula of Crimea in 2014 and supported a separatist movement that year in eastern Ukraine. Putin’s full-scale invasion of the country began last year.

In a May 2014 congressio­nal hearing, DeSantis pressed Victoria Nuland, then a senior diplomat in the Obama administra­tion, on whether the White House was assuring NATO allies that the U.S. would “clearly” invoke Article 5 of the NATO charter — which states that an attack on one member nation is an attack on all — if Putin struck the alliance.

DeSantis asked Nuland whether the administra­tion had assessed “that the actions of Russia may require us to relook at our force posture in Europe, and our requiremen­ts for future deployment­s, exercises and training in the region.”

“In light of what has happened with

Ukraine, Putin has taken this position that well, look, all these people are Russians — I am actually saving them by violating Ukrainian sovereignt­y,” DeSantis said. “And that same argument could obviously be applied to Latvia, Estonia, and some of our NATO allies, because they have ethnic Russian population­s.”

“If that kind of pretext were used in some place like Latvia,” he continued, “the administra­tion’s position would be that Article 5 of NATO would, clearly, be invoked?”

“Absolutely. We have a solemn treaty commitment to our NATO allies,” Nuland said.

DeSantis replied that NATO allies such as Latvia seemed to be in doubt that Obama would stand by U.S. commitment­s to Article 5, fueling fears in eastern Europe.

“Even though we have assured them that we stand shoulder to shoulder, there is a lot of fear about what would happen and whether we would be willing, if push came to shove, to actually stand with them,” DeSantis said.

Previously reported comments from DeSantis’ tenure as a congressma­n show that he pushed the Obama administra­tion to provide weapons to the Ukrainians.

“We in the Congress have been urging the president, I’ve been, to provide arms to Ukraine. They

want to fight their good fight. They’re not asking us to fight it for them. And the president has steadfastl­y refused. And I think that that’s a mistake,” DeSantis said in 2015.

DeSantis’ latest comments on the matter were issued through a statement to Tucker Carlson, a Fox News host who has said that he is “rooting” for Russia in its war against Ukraine.

“While the U.S. has many vital national interests — securing our

borders, addressing the crisis of readiness with our military, achieving energy security and independen­ce, and checking the economic, cultural and military power of the Chinese Communist Party — becoming further entangled in a territoria­l dispute between Ukraine and Russia is not one of them,” DeSantis told Carlson.

DeSantis’ office did not respond to a request for comments.

The Florida governor’s statement has led to an

outcry among top Republican lawmakers who have declared Ukraine’s fight for freedom and democracy as a vital U.S. interest.

While most Americans support continuing U.S. support for Ukraine, polls show Republican voters are split on the matter.

On Thursday, Oleg Nikolenko, a spokespers­on for the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry, invited the Florida governor to visit the country to witness the conflict himself.

“We are sure that as a

former military officer deployed to a combat zone, Governor @RonDeSanti­sFL knows the difference between a ‘dispute’ and war,” Nikolenko wrote on Twitter. “We invite him to visit Ukraine to get a deeper understand­ing of Russia’s full-scale invasion and the threats it poses to US interests.”

 ?? PEDRO PORTAL pportal@miamiheral­d.com | July 21, 2021 ?? Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis told Fox News: ‘While the U.S. has many vital national interests ..., becoming further entangled in a territoria­l dispute between Ukraine and Russia is not one of them.’
PEDRO PORTAL pportal@miamiheral­d.com | July 21, 2021 Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis told Fox News: ‘While the U.S. has many vital national interests ..., becoming further entangled in a territoria­l dispute between Ukraine and Russia is not one of them.’

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