Milwaukee Journal Sentinel

Ramsay gets hands dirty for travel show

- Mark Kennedy CHRIS PIZZELLO/INVISION/AP

NEW YORK – For his latest TV show, famed chef Gordon Ramsay has definitely left the comforting familiarit­y of his kitchens.

On “Uncharted,” Ramsay travels to explore flavors far from routine. He eats guinea pig in Peru, fishes for eel with his bare hands to make a Maori dish in New Zealand and forages for hearts of palm in Morocco.

“It’s a million miles away from my high-end, three-star Michelin kitchen,” he says of the show on the National Geographic Channel at 9 p.m. Sundays. “It’s straight to the source.”

After spending a week learning about the ingredient­s, Ramsay ends each show with a cooking competitio­n, pitting himself against a local chef. Think of it like Anthony Bourdain crossed with Bear Grylls and “Top Chef.”

Ramsay, who is also a host on Fox’s “MasterChef,” talked recently about being a fish out of water for once and how kitchens are changing.

Question: For the new show, you’re climbing trees, fishing for eels and rappelling down cliffs. Are you having fun?

Answer: I’m definitely having fun. It’s an extraordin­ary journey of discovery and peeling back those layers with cultures that in this evermoving foodie world — of London, New York and Paris — (that) don’t tend to focus on what’s going on with Maori cuisine. So it’s traveling to great lengths to dig deep.

Q: A more humble side of you comes through. You aren’t often out of your element, are you?

A: I find joy in being vulnerable, in a way. It’s about gaining knowledge, and that’s never left me in two and a half decades. There’s a lot of chefs with one Michelin star, or two stars or even three stars that want everything perfect everywhere they go, and I’m the opposite. I want to go there and ... become a local.

Q: What’s it like to get up close and personal with the ingredient­s?

A: For the last two decades, I’ve spent thousands of hours in kitchens with produce arriving at my fingertips. So, to do the opposite and get straight to the source, it’s actually been, to be honest, more of a therapeuti­c journey because I’m doing the opposite of what I’ve been doing for 20 years.

Q: Do you recommend that every chef do what you’re doing and carve some time to explore?

A: I’d recommend to every chef in the world to ... disappear for a month on a sabbatical. The problem is that when you get good, automatica­lly you stop training because you’re caught up in the rapture of success and you don’t get a chance to go back to that coal face.

Q: Speaking of rough places, do you think the brutality of life in kitchens is lessening?

A: It’s definitely changing, and changing for the better. The kitchen environmen­t today, with a far more greater female presence, has made things so much more relaxed in terms of temperamen­ts. And so that’s been a blessing. So, yes, it’s definitely getting easier. And rightly so.

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Gordon Ramsay has a new National Geographic television series “Gordon Ramsay: Uncharted.”

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