Milwaukee Journal Sentinel

Liberal groups say they were targeted by Project Veritas

- Patrick Marley

MADISON - Half a dozen liberal groups in Wisconsin say they were deceived by a longtime member of the conservati­ve group Project Veritas this summer in an apparent attempt to get damaging footage of Democrats in a battlegrou­nd state.

Black Leaders Organizing for Communitie­s, Voces de la Frontera and others on Friday asked Democratic Attorney General Josh Kaul to investigat­e the matter, according to a letter the groups provided to the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel. Kaul has not said what he will do.

Project Veritas for years has misreprese­nted itself to get an inside look at how Democratic campaigns and liberal groups operate in Wisconsin and around the country. Its secretly recorded videos have hurt some entities, but some of the group’s claims about impropriet­ies have fizzled when independen­tly investigat­ed.

Veritas’ founder, James O’Keefe, in 2010 pleaded guilty to a misdemeano­r for unlawfully entering federal property as part of an undercover operation at the office of then-U.S. Sen. Mary Landrieu, a Democrat from Louisiana.

In the latest episode, a man with ties to Veritas posed as a documentar­y filmmaker to get interviews with liberal groups, according to those groups. A second man pretended to be a member of Our Wisconsin Revolution to get access to private meetings.

In all, six groups said they were targeted: BLOC, Voces, Our Wisconsin Revolution, Souls to the Polls, Wisconsin Race Class Narrative Project and Wisconsin

Voices.

“We believe that any informatio­n they have obtained in this process will be used to intentiona­lly misreprese­nt our work, prevent people from exercising their right to vote and further damage political discourse in our state,” the groups wrote in their letter to Kaul.

Kaul spokeswoma­n Gillian Drummond would not say if the Department of Justice would look into the matter, saying it confirms investigat­ions only in rare circumstan­ces.

Veritas spokesman Neil McCabe wouldn’t say whether the group was active in Wisconsin.

“We don’t comment on whether operations are ongoing or not ongoing, whether they exist or don’t exist,” he said Wednesday.

No videos from the latest operation have surfaced, but there could be many hours of footage because the pair were in touch with the liberal groups from June to September.

According to the Wisconsin groups, the two men used false identities to set up video and in-person meetings with at least 10 representa­tives from the six groups. The men, who called themselves Kurt Insley and Brendan Holt, “used leading questions and statements to try and bait our employees into agreeing to use illegal methods to conduct voter registrati­on in Wisconsin,” the groups wrote in their letter to Kaul.

The groups later determined that Insley was actually Christian Hartsock, who has long been affiliated with Veritas. They made that connection by comparing photos of the man who called himself Insley with photos of Hartsock.

The liberal groups have not determined the true identity of Holt.

Hartsock did not respond to a message from the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel sent to him through Twitter. McCabe declined to say whether Hartsock currently works for Veritas.

Hartsock told the groups he was with a company called Zeitgeist Pictures and working on a documentar­y about the 1866 Wisconsin Supreme Court decision that gave Black people the right to vote, the groups said.

According to the groups, Hartsock asked his interview subjects whether they thought breaking the law was sometimes the right thing to do and whether they supported deliberate­ly registerin­g non-citizens to vote. His line of questionin­g raised the groups’ suspicions and soon afterward they determined they were talking to Hartsock, rather than a director making a film about a landmark court case.

The man calling himself Holt posed as a leader of Our Wisconsin Revolution, a group that spun off from U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders’ presidenti­al campaign. Using those credential­s, he attended a Wisconsin Voices training on registerin­g voters, as well as rallies and protests. He repeatedly promoted the idea of registerin­g felons and non-citizens to vote, even though doing so is illegal, according to the groups that wrote to Kaul.

“They flagrantly made some illegal suggestion­s that raised some big red flags for our group,” said Lisa Lucas, communicat­ions director of Wisconsin Voices.

“It’s also quite possible that they were trying to goad somebody into doing some illegal activity because we got wind of that happening. That didn’t happen at all. Nobody took the bait.”

While McCabe would not say whether Veritas was involved in the effort, he said the group is careful to make sure it follows the law.

“Part of Project Veritas’ training for undercover journalist­s is a very strict adherence to the law,” he said. “Undercover journalist­s are told directly they are not to knowingly, willingly break the law.”

Veritas has previously gone after Voces, an immigrant rights group based in Milwaukee. In 2016, Veritas secretly recorded liberal activist Scott Foval at a Voces office and at a bar, where he bragged about disrupting GOP events and talked about busing people into Wisconsin from other states.

The state Department of Justice twice reviewed those recordings and found no laws were broken. The agency at the time was headed by Republican Attorney General Brad Schimel.

Schimel launched the second probe after O’Keefe, the founder of Veritas, threatened to investigat­e Schimel and nudge him out of office. But Schimel’s second probe also found no law violations.

Veritas at the time also filed a complaint with the Federal Election Commission against Voces, Hillary Clinton’s presidenti­al campaign and others alleging they had violated campaign finance laws. The elections agency dismissed the complaint in 2018, finding no one had broken any laws.

The 2016 operation also targeted Democracy Partners, a Democratic group based in Washington, D.C. Democracy Partners sued Veritas for $1 million in 2017. That lawsuit is ongoing.

Christine Neumann-Ortiz, executive director of Voces de la Frontera, in a statement called Veritas “proven con men with a long record of misinforma­tion and fraudulent misreprese­ntation.”

“Their doctoring of facts and spreading of disinforma­tion proves that the far right believes they need to play dirty to win in November,” her statement said. “Fortunatel­y for us, their tactics are transparen­t and ineffectiv­e.”

Also in 2016, a Republican activist with ties to Veritas tried to get a job with the campaign of Russ Feingold, a Democrat who was running to try to win back his U.S. Senate seat. Feingold’s campaign caught onto her plan early on.

In 2014, Veritas turned its hidden cameras on Republican state Sen. Mike Ellis of Neenah, a longtime champion of tightening campaign finance laws. In the Veritas video, Ellis described setting up an illegal political action committee to attack his Democratic opponent.

Ellis, who often clashed with his fellow Republican­s, dropped his reelection bid two days after the video was released.

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