Milwaukee Journal Sentinel

Expert: Lack of oxygen killed Floyd, not drugs

Multiple testimonie­s point to position, knee

- Amy Forliti, Steve Karnowski and Tammy Webber

MINNEAPOLI­S – The chief medical examiner who ruled George Floyd’s death a homicide testified Friday that the way police held him down and compressed his neck “was just more than Mr. Floyd could take,” given the condition of his heart.

Dr. Andrew Baker, the Hennepin County medical examiner, took the stand at the murder trial of former Officer Derek Chauvin for pressing his knee on or close to Floyd’s neck for what prosecutor­s said was as much as 91⁄2 minutes as the 46-year-old Black man lay pinned to the pavement last May.

Asked about his finding that police “subdual, restraint and neck compressio­n” led to Floyd’s death, Baker said that Floyd had severe underlying heart disease and an enlarged heart that needed more oxygen than normal to function, as well as narrowing of two heart arteries.

Baker said being involved in a scuffle raises adrenaline, which asks the heart to beat even faster and supply more oxygen.

“And in my opinion, the law enforcemen­t subdual, restraint and the neck compressio­n was just more than Mr. Floyd could take by virtue of that, those heart conditions,” the medical examiner said.

Other medical experts, including a leading lung specialist, have gone further, testifying that Floyd died from a lack of oxygen because of the way he was restrained on his stomach with his hands cuffed behind his back, his face jammed against the ground and Chauvin’s knee in his neck.

Chauvin, 45, is charged with murder and manslaught­er in Floyd’s death May 25. Floyd was arrested outside a neighborho­od market after being accused of trying to pass a counterfei­t $20 bill.

Bystander video of Floyd crying that he couldn’t breathe as onlookers yelled at the white officer to get off him sparked protests and scattered violence around the U.S.

Chauvin attorney Eric Nelson has argued that the now-fired white officer did what he was trained to do and that Floyd’s illegal drug use and underlying health conditions, not Chauvin’s knee, killed him. An autopsy found fentanyl and methamphet­amine in Floyd’s system.

Baker testified that neither Floyd’s heart problems nor drugs caused his death: “Mr. Floyd’s use of fentanyl did not cause the subdual or neck restraint. His heart disease did not cause the subdual or the neck restraint.”

Under cross-examinatio­n, though, Baker agreed with Nelson that Floyd’s heart disease and drug use “played a role” in the death.

A medical expert who testified Thursday said a healthy person subjected to what Floyd endured would also have died.

Nelson asked Baker whether he has certified deaths by fentanyl overdose at levels lower than that seen in Floyd’s blood, and Baker said yes. But Baker also noted that levels of fentanyl must be considered in the context of how long someone had used the drug, any tolerance built up to it, and what other substances may be involved

Baker testified that his examinatio­n of Floyd’s heart found no “visible or microscopi­c previous damage” to the heart muscle. And he said he did not notice any pills or pill fragments in Floyd’s stomach.

Baker also said he did not watch the harrowing video of the arrest before examining Floyd so that he would not be influenced by what he saw.

“I was aware that at least one video had gone viral on the internet, but I intentiona­lly chose not to look at that until I had examined Mr. Floyd,” he said. “I did not want to bias my exam by going in with any preconceiv­ed notions that might lead me down one pathway or another.”

Other medical experts called as prosecutio­n witnesses have likewise blamed Floyd’s death on the way he was pinned down on the ground.

Dr. Lindsey Thomas, a forensic pathologis­t who retired in 2017 from the Hennepin County Medical Examiner’s Office and did not work on Floyd’s case, testified earlier Friday that she agreed with Baker’s findings, but appeared to go further, saying the “primary mechanism of death” was asphyxia, or insufficient oxygen.

She said she reached that conclusion mostly from video that showed Floyd struggling to breathe.

“This is a death where both the heart and lungs stopped working. The point is, it’s due to law enforcemen­t subdual, restraint and compressio­n,” Thomas said.

During cross-examinatio­n, Nelson asked Thomas about what could cause a heart to suddenly stop beating, noting that Floyd’s bigger heart needed more blood and was working hard in a moment of stress and adrenaline, and that one of his arteries had a 90% blockage.

Thomas said any blockage over 70% to 75% could be used to explain death, in the absence of another cause. But she also said some people can live just fine with an artery that is fully blocked.

The defense attorney pressed Thomas by posing a hypothetic­al question.

“Let’s assume you found Mr. Floyd dead in his residence. No police involvemen­t, no drugs, right? The only thing you found would be these facts about his heart. What would you conclude to be the cause of death?” Nelson asked.

“In that very narrow set of circumstan­ces, I would probably conclude that the cause of death was his heart disease,” Thomas replied.

In response to another hypothetic­al posed by Nelson, she agreed that she would certify Floyd’s death as an overdose if there were no other explanatio­ns.

But during re-questionin­g, prosecutor Jerry Blackwell ridiculed the defense attorney’s hypothetic­als and quickly got Thomas to repeat that the cause of Floyd’s death was the restraint by police.

“Aren’t those questions a lot like asking, ‘Mrs. Lincoln, if we take John Wilkes Booth out of this …’ ” Blackwell began, before Nelson objected.

For the first time, a seat designated for Chauvin’s family was occupied Friday, by a woman. She wasn’t immediatel­y identified. Chauvin’s marriage ended in divorce in the months after Floyd’s death.

Also on Friday, Judge Peter Cahill called in a juror and questioned her about whether she had been subject to any outside influences. She replied that she briefly saw TV coverage with the sound off and said that her mother-inlaw had texted her, “Looks like it was a bad day” but that she didn’t reply.

The judge allowed her to remain on the jury.

 ?? COURT TV VIA AP ?? Dr. Lindsey Thomas, a retired forensic pathologis­t, tells a jury Friday that George Floyd’s “primary mechanism of death is asphyxia, or low oxygen.”
COURT TV VIA AP Dr. Lindsey Thomas, a retired forensic pathologis­t, tells a jury Friday that George Floyd’s “primary mechanism of death is asphyxia, or low oxygen.”

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