New York Daily News

‘Charlie Says’ writer mines communal past

Film views Manson story through eyes of women he turned into killers

- BY SUSAN KING

Screenwrit­er Guinevere Turner admitted it was difficult watching the filming of the Manson family murders of pregnant actress Sharon Tate and six others for her latest film, “Charlie Says.”

“I’m just empathetic,” Turner explained over a recent lunch in West Hollywood. “Just to even look at Grace Van Dien, who plays Sharon in the movie — she’s standing there in the corner with her pregnant prosthetic, sobbing to get ready for the scene where she’s begging for her life — I was crying.”

Turner thought, “‘How have all the decisions in my life brought me to this moment where I am watching this actress play this victim of this horrible crime?’ I was dying. There was chatter on the set and I was like, ‘Can you take this all seriously?’ because the other actors were also covered in blood having to get into that head space. It was deeply disturbing.”

“Charlie Says” marks the third feature film collaborat­ion between Turner and director Mary Harron. Their previous projects were the controvers­ial 2000 “American Psycho” and 2005’s “The Notorious Bettie Page.”

Turner debuted as an actress and screenwrit­er in 1994 with the Sundance hit “Go Fish,” a milestone of New Queer Cinema. She continued to act and write, including a recurring role on “The L Word,” where she also served as a story editor, in addition to directing seven short films.

“Charlie Says” is the second movie released this year that travels back to 1969 Los Angeles, when cult leader Charles Manson and his “family” committed those murders.

What sets “Charlie Says” apart from similar films being released this year is that the story of the cult and murders are seen through the eyes of the three women who committed the murders for Manson (Matt Smith) — Leslie Van Houten (Hannah Murray), Patricia Krenwinkel (Sosie Bacon) and Susan Atkins (Marianne Rendon) — after they are sentenced to life in prison and isolated together in a cellblock. (Atkins died in 2009; Van Houten and Krenwinkel are still incarcerat­ed.)

The women’s lives change when social worker Karlene Faith (Merritt Weaver) arrives with the hope of rehabilita­ting the trio, still very much under Manson’s spell.

The producers of the film met with Turner in 2014 because “they wanted

it from a woman’s perspectiv­e,” Turner said.

The screenwrit­er also thought she was the perfect choice because for the first decade of her life, she grew up in a communal life — “they certainly wouldn’t call themselves a cult” — with the Lyman family. (The commune has since evolved into a very successful home constructi­on company.)

Turner was born into the compound in 1968, when it included 100 adults and 60 children. She wrote about the experience in a recent New Yorker magazine article, “My Childhood in a Cult.”

She was curious for her mother, who left the Lyman family in 1979 and later became a vice president at Morgan Stanley, to see the film.

Harron, who wasn’t initially attached to “Charlie Says,” noted she was excited when she learned Turner was writing the movie. “I always wanted her to do something about her childhood, but she was not ready to write it. This is a wonderful way for her to use what she knows and the workings of that kind of commune. It seems a perfect match for her.”

Though people knew about Manson, who died two years ago at 83, “it is interestin­g that there was no focus on what happened to the women and their state of mind,” Harron said.

“I was really trying to answer the question: How did he get them (to join the cult) and get them to do these horrible things?” Turner said . “I started reading about human traffickin­g and sex traffickin­g. This one guy, a human trafficker, said the most profound thing that has stuck with me (and I used in) the script. He said: ‘I go to a mall. I see a bunch of teenage girls hanging out. I insinuate myself in the conversati­on. I tell a girl she has pretty eyes. She says, “Thank you.” I move on to the next one. Finally, when I find the girl and say, “You have pretty eyes” and she says, “No. I don’t,” that’s my target.’ Isn’t that bone-chilling?”

Though it revolves around the three women, “Charlie Says” focuses on Leslie Van Houten, who Faith, the social worker, bonded with the most and about whom she later wrote the book “The Long Prison Journey of Leslie Van Houten.”

Turner was disturbed when she learned the three women were kept isolated together for the first five years of incarcerat­ion. “There were a couple of other people who came and went in those five years, but the worst thing you could have done for these women psychologi­cally was give them only each other to talk to. I mean, that to me was shocking, having grown up the way I did and just knowing so much. When the David Koresh, Waco, Texas, things happened (in 1993), I was thinking to myself ‘Don’t confront them with guns.’ It’s the apocalypti­c vision coming to life.”

Turner acknowledg­ed there has been criticism of “Charlie Says,” wondering why she didn’t explain why these women were “susceptibl­e to do this thing. My response is that I hate movies that tell us why people do crazy things because we don’t know. You and I can have the same upbringing and make different choices.”

 ?? GINA FERAZZI/LOS ANGELES TIMES ?? Screenwrit­er Guinevere Turner, above, paired with director Mary Harron on the Manson family murders film “Charlie Says.”
GINA FERAZZI/LOS ANGELES TIMES Screenwrit­er Guinevere Turner, above, paired with director Mary Harron on the Manson family murders film “Charlie Says.”

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