Northwest Arkansas Democrat-Gazette

Financial planning for women

- Sallie Krawcheck Founder Ellevest Interviewe­d by Sarah Skidmore Sell. Edited for clarity and length.

Sallie Krawcheck knows about being a woman in a man’s world.

A Wall Street veteran, Krawcheck led Merrill Lynch, Smith Barney and Citi Private as CEO. She saw that the traditiona­l world of finance was not properly meeting the needs of women.

So in 2016 she launched Ellevest, a digital investment advisory firm for women.

Krawcheck talked to The Associated Press about how Ellevest takes into account difference­s between men and women’s financial lives, like lower pay, longer lifespans and career absences.

Why do you think women need an investment service tailored to them?

We put in thousands of hours of research and found that many of the myths about women in investing — women are too risk averse, they need hand holding more — are all false.

We turned our attention to the fact that (the traditiona­l industry setup) is just not working for them. What motivates a woman to invest is not winning but reaching her goals — buying a house, starting a business, retiring comfortabl­y.

So what do you do differentl­y?

We provide a free investing plan that traditiona­l firms would charge $1,000 or more for, or traditiona­lly would have. And we help give them the tools to determine what they want to do in their life and how they do that, using a very powerful algorithm. I don’t want to say we empower them, because I don’t like that word, but we give her the tools to make the decisions.

Why don’t you like the word empower?

I never like it when it is used with women. Women already have the power, we just haven’t tapped into it.

We are more than half the workforce, we manage $5 trillion of investable assets in the US and we control the bulk of consumer spending. We have the power, we just haven’t used it.

I understand there was some backlash from women when Ellevest launched though, is that right?

Yeah, oh yeah. I would say a double-digit percentage of women had a negative reaction. (Women said) ‘I don’t need a dumb-dumb version. How dare you? This is sexist’.

What happened next was fascinatin­g, some of the women engaged in a conversati­on among themselves (online). Some pointed out that this is the first (service) that takes into account we live longer and that our pay isn’t equal — that isn’t sexist it’s feminist. The conversati­on came along and in general, (the criticism) has gone away because the product has stood on its feet so strongly.

Where does the traditiona­l format go wrong with them?

It doesn’t reflect them and therefore has not met their needs. It’s all about beating the market, not about meeting their goals. The industry, when I was in it, would literally talk about women as a niche market.

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