As tariffs get near, U.S. talks to China

Midlevel trade negotiations between the U.S. and China began Wednesday after a monthslong standstill, the first face-to-face trade discussions held by the two sides since June. Hanging over the meetings will be the next round of tariffs on $16 billion of each nation’s exports to the other, set to take effect today.

The talks between the midlevel officials aren’t expected to draw in senior decisionmakers and are predicted to result only in a joint statement of productive discussions, according to a person familiar with the agenda.

David Malpass, a Treasury Department undersecretary, and Wang Shouwen, the Chinese vice commerce minister, will touch on the major friction points, ranging from intellectual-property protections to rebalancing trade, the person said.

President Donald Trump himself has played down expectations in recent days while reviving a point of friction by accusing Beijing of manipulating its currency to offset the effect of his tariffs.

That, analysts say, is partly because Trump and China hawks in his administration are feeling increasingly emboldened since the two sides held talks in May and June. At home, Trump has watched the subdued reaction of financial markets to his trade maneuvers and hailed recent strong

economic news and polls showing his approval rating holding up among Republicans. Meanwhile, in China the economy has shown signs of weakness in recent months — a circumstance Trump has said gives the U.S. an advantage.

“Here we are three months later and if anything during that time the hawks’ position has been consolidated because we drove over the cliff and discovered our car can fly with the U.S. economy still doing fairly well and President Trump still popular among Republicans,” said Scott Kennedy, an expert on U.S.-China relations at the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington.

The administration still remains divided over how best to tackle China. While Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin is eager to find a negotiated solution, other Cabinet members such as U.S. Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer are keen to continue increasing the pressure on Beijing, analysts say.

Lighthizer has been behind the growing pile of tariffs being rolled out on imports from China. With the $16 billion in products set to be hit starting today, some $50 billion in annual imports will be subject to added duties. But the trade representative’s office has also been holding hearings this week on a further $200 billion in imports to be targeted as soon as next month.

“[The trade representative’s office] is not going to engage the Chinese seriously right now unless the president orders them to,” said Derek Scissors, a China expert at the American Enterprise Institute in Washington. “If you are China and you want to have talks, then it is Treasury that you are going to have to talk to.”

Given Trump’s focus on the yuan’s recent weakening, which has helped blunt the effect of the U.S. tariffs, the Chinese delegation could this week offer a private pledge to not let the currency weaken further as long as negotiations continue, Scissors said. Such a commitment might lead to further discussions.

But Trump’s decision to tear up a deal negotiated by Mnuchin earlier this year has left Chinese officials perplexed about whom to trust in Washington and has weakened Mnuchin’s position.

“We felt that the Commerce Department is tougher than Treasury, and [the trade representative’s office] is tougher than the Commerce Department,” said Mei Xinyu, a researcher at the Chinese Academy of International Trade and Economic Cooperation affiliated with the Ministry of Commerce. “The two sides have in common that neither wants a complete breakup despite the fight.”

Treasury Department officials have been working on a revised list of American demands in the lead-up to this week’s meetings, according to people familiar with the U.S. preparations. That effort, however, has been resisted by other parts of the Trump administration and it is unclear whether they will be ready to be presented to the visiting Chinese delegation.

The initial list of U.S. demands presented to China in May included a call for a $200 billion reduction in America’s annual trade deficit with China by 2020 — which stood at about $375 billion last year — and an end to industrial policies that the U.S. claims violates global trading rules.

This week’s talks also are taking place as hundreds of executives and officials from U.S. companies, trade groups and other entities have descended on Washington to weigh in on the administration’s planned tariffs on the additional $200 billion in Chinese imports. Most have been asking for goods to be removed from the list of products.

The administration has said it wants to avoid consumer products and target industries critical to China’s economic future. Yet companies including Fitbit Inc. and iRobot Corp. are complaining that their bicycles, handbags, sports equipment and a range of additional products across multiple industries are being unfairly targeted.

“We question the logic that short-term pain will lead to longterm benefits,” Naomi Wilson, director of global policy, China & Greater Asia for the Information Technology Industry Council, testified Tuesday. The group represents companies including Amazon Inc., Apple Inc. and Facebook Inc.