Northwest Arkansas Democrat-Gazette

Lawmakers quiz ex-Trump aide

Sentenced for lying, Papadopolo­us interviewe­d on Russia ties

- KAROUN DEMIRJIAN

WASHINGTON — President Donald Trump’s former campaign adviser, George Papadopoul­os, met with House lawmakers Thursday to answer questions about his outreach to Russian officials and contacts with individual­s who have become a focus of special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigat­ion of the president’s alleged Russia ties.

It is the first time that Papadopoul­os, who was sentenced in September to two weeks in jail for lying to the FBI, has spoken to any of the congressio­nal panels examining aspects of Russian interferen­ce in U.S. politics. The meeting was closed to the public.

Lawmakers have wanted to interview Papadopoul­os for more than a year but were unable to do so while he was cooperatin­g with Mueller. He volunteere­d to speak with congressio­nal committees after his sentencing, though he has not yet served his time.

Papadopoul­os emerged as a key witness in the Russia probe because of an offer he made to connect the Trump campaign with Russian officials — a suggestion at which Trump “nodded with approval,” Papadopoul­os’ lawyer said during his sentencing — and his claim to have known that Russia accessed former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s email, weeks before that informatio­n became public.

But in advance of his interview, Papadopoul­os claimed he was set up by the FBI, and used as “a patsy for a ‘Russia’ conspiracy,” he said in a tweet, adding: “My set up was carefully orchestrat­ed.”

The FBI has pointed to a May 2016 conversati­on Papadopoul­os had in Britain with Australian diplomat Alexander Downer, calling the meeting a pivotal incident that caused federal law enforcemen­t to open a counterint­elligence investigat­ion into then-candidate Trump.

That runs counter to accusation­s from House Republican­s loyal to the president, who accuse the FBI of basing its investigat­ion on a now-famous dossier compiled by a former British intelligen­ce agent whose work was partially paid for by the Democratic National Committee and partially by the Clinton campaign. Trump’s allies have used that claim to suggest the entire probe, including the special counsel investigat­ion, is biased.

Before Papadopoul­os’ appearance, some of Trump’s allies on the House Judiciary and Oversight and Government Reform committees sought to demonstrat­e the FBI ignored what Papadopoul­os told authoritie­s. They surmised this from assertions that the FBI had intentiona­lly left out informatio­n from applicatio­ns to surveil another former member of the Trump campaign, Carter Page.

“George Papadopoul­os, the supposed key informant, told the FBI there was no collusion BEFORE the FISA warrant — and the FBI omitted that exculpator­y informatio­n from the applicatio­n anyway,” Rep. Mark Meadows, R-N.C., head of the House Freedom Caucus, said on Twitter this week. FISA refers to the Foreign Intelligen­ce Surveillan­ce Act, which requires the government to obtain warrants before authoritie­s can conduct surveillan­ce on Americans in national security cases. “With all we’ve learned about FISA abuses, this is deeply troubling.”

Democrats, who already believe the committees’ joint inquiry is a farce designed to undermine Mueller’s work, are skeptical that Papadopoul­os will say anything credible.

Rep. Jamie Raskin of Maryland, the only Democrat expected to be present for the interview, pointed out Thursday that Papadopoul­os is a convicted liar, noting that one must “take his testimony for what it’s worth” — intimating it would be worth little or nothing at all.

“I see this whole thing as a footnote to a sideshow of a wild-goose chase,” Raskin said. “We’re in Alice in Wonderland.”

Papadopoul­os has accused Downer, the Australian diplomat, of conspiring with former director of national intelligen­ce James Clapper to hide what Papadopoul­os said was “the most profound, and illegal, spying operation against an American and the presidenti­al campaign he worked for in history.”

 ?? AP/CAROLYN KASTER ?? George Papadopoul­os, President Donald Trump’s former campaign adviser, arrives Thursday for his first appearance before congressio­nal investigat­ors in Washington.
AP/CAROLYN KASTER George Papadopoul­os, President Donald Trump’s former campaign adviser, arrives Thursday for his first appearance before congressio­nal investigat­ors in Washington.

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