Northwest Arkansas Democrat-Gazette

House panel grills Google CEO on privacy, political issues

- TONY ROMM AND CRAIG TIMBERG

WASHINGTON — Google chief executive Sundar Pichai asserted in his first-ever testimony to Congress that the tech giant operates “without political bias.” But the Tuesday hearing devolved into a partisan struggle reflecting two differing viewpoints on Silicon Valley’s shortcomin­gs.

Republican­s insisted the company suppresses conservati­ve voices, an allegation they have made repeatedly this year against Google as well as Facebook and Twitter. Democrats pledged tougher oversight of online hate and data privacy, issues that could move to the forefront when they take over control of the House next year.

As members of the two parties alternated asking questions in five-minute segments, Pichai repeatedly assured lawmakers that Google strives for political neutrality. He said the tech giant had worked to curb the spread of content that violates its rules, from white supremacis­t videos on YouTube to disinforma­tion posted on its services by Russian agents.

Members of both parties pressed Pichai on the privacy implicatio­ns of the company’s sweeping datacollec­tion practices across a variety of services, including Gmail, Google Search and the Android mobile operating system. A day after Google revealed that a new mishap jeopardize­d the data of about 52 million users of its soonto-be deactivate­d social networking service, Pichai told lawmakers, “We always think there is more to do.”

Both Democrats and Republican­s also warned Google about building a search engine that would work with China’s government-controlled Internet, as the company has con-

sidered doing. In response, the Google leader said the company would brief Congress before proceeding.

The hearing before the House Judiciary Committee caps a year-long inquiry by the panel into allegation­s that Google and its tech peers stifle conservati­ves online. Democrats have objected to the inquiry from the beginning, arguing that their Republican colleagues have been playing politics. But the two parties still appeared to share broad suspicions about Google’s algorithms — and the company’s business practices.

Pichai is the third tech CEO — after Facebook’s Mark Zuckerberg and Twitter’s Jack Dorsey — to submit to a grilling on Capitol Hill this year after years of avoiding the congressio­nal spotlight. The questions about Google’s privacy practices, its next big tech bets and its ability to confront ills including hate speech only stand to intensify as lawmakers increasing­ly focus on how Silicon Valley operates.

House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy, R-Calif., who helped orchestrat­e the hearing, opened with a rhetorical question: “Are America’s technology companies serving as instrument­s of freedom, or instrument­s of control?”

In response, Democrats led by Rep. Jerry Nadler of New York called the premise of the hearing itself a “fantasy” and part of a “right-wing conspiracy.” Nadler said lawmakers should have focused on the ways the Internet has become a “new tool for those seeking to stoke racial and ethnic hatred. The presence of hateful conduct and content in these platforms has been made all the more alarming by the recent rise in hate-motivated violence.”

Republican­s including Rep. Steve Chabot of Ohio at one point alleged that Google’s search algorithm is “in effect picking winners and losers” and potentiall­y even “affecting elections.”

Watching from the audience as they spoke were Alex Jones, a conspiracy theorist banned from YouTube and other tech platforms for violating its policies against abuse, and Roger Stone, an ally of Jones and associate of President Donald Trump who

has emerged as a figure in special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigat­ion into allegation­s of Russian interferen­ce in the 2016 campaign. Before testimony began, Jones held court outside the hearing room, shouting that Google had violated his rights to free speech.

Caught in the middle, Pichai stressed Google’s neutrality.

“To do otherwise would go against our core principles and our business interests,” Pichai said. ”

Pichai’s responses — at times gently deflecting questions, offering more nuance than lawmakers sought, or promising to have his staff follow up later on tricky questions — did not always satisfy some Republican­s.

Rep. Ted Poe, R-Texas, held up his iPhone and demanded to know if Google would detect if he walked across the hearing room and sat among the Democratic lawmakers.

“Does Google track my movement?” asked Poe sharply.

As Pichai attempted to answer, adding that he needed to know more about the Apple device’s settings before answering, Poe interrupte­d, saying: “It’s not a trick question.”

Rep. Jamie Raskin, D-Md., also took an aggressive tone with Pichai in citing a Washington Post story on Tuesday regarding the rampant spread of hateful, conspirato­rial videos on YouTube.

Pichai said the company had made progress in policing some types of problemati­c content but added: “We are looking to do more. This was a recent thing, but I’m committed to following up on it, making sure we are evaluating these against our policies. But it’s an area where we acknowledg­e there’s more work to be done and will definitely continue doing that.”

Raskin didn’t relent, saying that while Republican­s have alleged political bias, the hateful conspiracy videos have the potential to provoke violence as happened in 2016 when a man who had watched a conspiracy video on YouTube fired shots into a Washington, D.C., pizzeria.

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