Northwest Arkansas Democrat-Gazette

Tech execs get earful from lawmakers

But 4 CEOs mostly deflect on monopoly, competitio­n issues before Congress

- MICHAEL LIEDTKE, MARCY GORDON AND MATT O’BRIEN

WASHINGTON — Congressio­nal lawmakers finally got a chance to grill the CEOs of tech companies over their dominance and allegation­s of monopolist­ic practices that stifle competitio­n. But it’s unclear how much they advanced their goal of bringing some of the world’s largest companies to heel.

Invective flew last week as legislator­s questioned Facebook’s

Mark Zuckerberg, Amazon’s Jeff Bezos, Google’s Sundar Pichai and Apple’s Tim Cook at a hearing of the House Judiciary subcommitt­ee on antitrust. For the past year, that panel has investigat­ed the business practices of the Silicon Valley giants with an eye to determinin­g if they need to be regulated more heavily or even broken up.

In nearly five hours of testimony and questionin­g, however, there were few startling revelation­s or striking confrontat­ions. While the executives faced hostile questionin­g and frequent interrupti­ons from lawmakers of both parties, little seemed to land more than glancing blows.

The CEOs testified via video to lawmakers, at times appearing together on the committee room display as tiny individual figures in a mostly empty array of squares. Most committee members were seated, masks on, in the hearing room in Washington.

The execs provided lots of data purporting to show how much competitio­n they face and how valuable their innovation and essential services are to consumers. But they sometimes struggled to answer pointed questions about their business practices. They also confronted a range of other concerns about alleged political bias, their effect on U.S. democracy and their role in China.

The panel’s chairman, Rep. David Cicilline, D-R.I., said

each platform controlled by Facebook, Amazon, Google and Apple “is a bottleneck for a key channel of distributi­on.”

“Whether they control access to informatio­n or to a marketplac­e, these platforms have the incentive and ability to exploit this power,” he said. “They can charge exorbitant fees, impose oppressive contracts, and extract valuable data from the people and businesses that rely on them.”

“Simply put: They have too much power.”

The four CEOs command corporatio­ns whose products are woven into the fabric of everyday life, with millions or even billions of customers, and a combined market value greater than the entire German economy. One of them, Bezos, is the world’s richest individual; Zuckerberg is the fourth-ranked billionair­e.

And they had a few rough moments. Pichai and Zuckerberg appeared discomfite­d when pressed about unsavory aspects of their companies’ businesses but got respites when their inquisitor­s ran out of time. Bezos also acknowledg­ed that alleged misdeeds at Amazon — such as reports that the company has used data generated by independen­t sellers on its platform to compete against them — would be “unacceptab­le” if proved to be true.

Outside observers were able to draw radically different

conclusion­s from the event. Richard Hamilton Jr., a former Justice Department antitrust lawyer, said that everyone on the committee seemed to be in agreement on the need for tougher regulation of all four companies — an “ominous” sign, he said. But Stephen Beck, CEO of the management consulting firm cg42, said the tech companies and their brands emerged relatively unscathed.

In particular, he said, Cook was particular­ly polished and well prepared, enabling the Apple CEO to put on what Beck called “a master class in terms of how to handle these situations.” Cook drew less attention from lawmakers than did the other CEOs after arguing that Apple isn’t dominant in any of its markets.

Among the toughest questions for Google and Amazon involved accusation­s that they used their dominant platforms to scoop up data about competitor­s in a way that gave them an unfair advantage.

Bezos, who was appearing before Congress for the first time, said he couldn’t guarantee that the company had not accessed seller data to make competing products, an allegation that the company and its executives have previously denied.

“We have a policy against using seller specific data to aid our private label business,” Bezos said in a response to a question from Rep. Pramila Jayapal, a Washington Democrat. “But I can’t guarantee to you that that policy hasn’t been

violated.”

Pichai deployed an old Washington trick — appealing to the specific interests of legislator­s. In his opening remarks, he touted Google’s value to mom-and-pop businesses in Bristol, R.I., and Pewaukee, Wis., which just happen to be in the home districts of Cicilline and Rep. James Sensenbren­ner of Wisconsin, the panel’s senior Republican.

But the Google executive struggled as Cicilline accused the company of leveraging its dominant search engine to steal ideas and informatio­n from other websites and manipulati­ng its results to drive people to its own digital services to boost its profits.

Pichai repeatedly deflected Cicilline’s attacks by asserting that Google tries to provide the most helpful and relevant informatio­n to the hundreds of millions of people who use its search engine each day in an effort to keep them coming back instead of defecting to a rival service, such as Microsoft’s Bing.

As Democrats largely focused on market competitio­n, several Republican­s aired longstandi­ng grievances, claiming the tech companies are censoring conservati­ve voices and questionin­g their business activities in China.

“Big Tech is out to get conservati­ves,” insisted Rep. Jim Jordan of Ohio.

In its bipartisan investigat­ion, the Judiciary subcommitt­ee collected testimony from mid-level executives of the four firms, competitor­s and legal experts, and pored over more than a million internal documents from the companies. A key question: whether existing competitio­n policies and century-old antitrust laws are adequate for overseeing the tech giants, or if new legislatio­n and enforcemen­t funding are needed.

Cicilline has called the four companies monopolies, although he says breaking them up should be a last resort. While forced breakups may appear unlikely, the wide scrutiny of Big Tech points toward possible new restrictio­ns on its power.

The companies face legal and political offensives on multiplyin­g fronts, from Congress, the Trump administra­tion, federal and state regulators and European watchdogs. The Justice Department and the Federal Trade Commission have been investigat­ing the four companies’ practices.

 ?? (AP/Mandel Ngan) ?? Google CEO Sundar Pichai, testifying remotely last week, touted Google’s value to mom-and-pop businesses in two of the lawmakers’ home districts.
(AP/Mandel Ngan) Google CEO Sundar Pichai, testifying remotely last week, touted Google’s value to mom-and-pop businesses in two of the lawmakers’ home districts.

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