Northwest Arkansas Democrat-Gazette
Economic aid talks go on; deal elusive
Democrats taking wait, see stance
WASHINGTON — House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin met Wednesday to discuss an economic-relief package, and although they did not reach a final deal, House Democrats agreed to postpone a vote on a more partisan bill to give the bipartisan talks more time.
“Secretary Mnuchin and I had an extensive conversation, and we found areas where we are seeking further clarification. Our conversations will continue,” Pelosi, D-Calif., said in a statement after their 90-minute meeting.
“I’ve seen substantial movement, yes, and certainly the rhetoric has changed,” White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows said.
Democrats pulled back plans to vote on their $2.2 trillion stimulus bill, which is opposed by House and Senate Republicans and has no chance of becoming law. Democratic leaders delayed that vote to allow more time for a bipartisan deal to emerge.
It remained uncertain whether a deal could be reached. Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., said the sides were “very, very far apart,” leaving it unclear whether any agreement struck by Pelosi and Mnuchin could pass muster with Senate Republicans.
But after weeks in which talks had stalled, Wednesday’s developments offered hope that Congress and the administration might come together after all to agree on new economic relief ahead of the Nov. 3 election.
Mnuchin told reporters before leaving the Capitol: “We made a lot of progress over the last few days. We still don’t have an agreement, but we have more work to do. And we’re going to see where we end up.”
The afternoon meeting in Pelosi’s office at the Capitol was the first in-person discussion between the House speaker and the treasury secretary since bipartisan talks collapsed in early August.
It came with the House days away from adjourning through the election and with the two sides still at odds on key issues including aid to cities and states, liability protections for businesses and the overall cost of the bill.
Mnuchin described the counteroffer he was delivering to Pelosi as similar to an approximately $1.5 trillion proposal developed by the bipartisan Problem Solvers Caucus in the House this month. That proposal included provisions allowing the price tag to increase to about $2 trillion based on the progression of the coronavirus, which would bring the two sides close in terms of overall spending levels.
Senate Republicans, however, have balked at spending more than $1 trillion. McConnell, who struggled to get his conference united behind a bill containing about $300 billion in new spending several weeks ago, said it was “outlandish” to think Senate Republicans would agree to anywhere near the $2.2 trillion Democrats want to spend.
Nevertheless, if no deal is reached, House Democratic leaders still intend to push forward this week with a vote on their new bill, which is a slimmed-down version of the $3.4 trillion Heroes Act that the House passed in May.
It would revive a $600-per-week pandemic jobless benefit and send a second round of direct payments to most individuals. It would scale back an aid package to state and local governments to $436 billion, send $225 billion to colleges and universities, and deliver another round of subsidies to businesses under the Paycheck Protection Program.
Airlines would get another $25 billion in aid as they face the prospect of widespread furloughs as soon as today unless a new aid package is passed.
Pelosi has been under pressure from moderates in her caucus, including some in tough reelection fights, to take new action to address the continued economic and public health damage from the coronavirus.
House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, D-Md., has been among those pushing for the chamber to vote on a new bill, since it has been months since House Democrats pushed through the Heroes Act, which the White House and Senate Republicans ignored. Hoyer said he hoped Pelosi and Mnuchin could reach agreement but that either way, the House should vote, allowing members to return home to campaign for reelection able to show that they tried.
“We’re going to do the best we can, and we’re going to make sure the position of our party is known to the American people in terms of trying to help them at this time of great crisis,” Hoyer told reporters on a conference call.
Pelosi has shown little sign that she is willing to back down from her $2.2 trillion price tag, with Democrats contending that they have already compromised. On a private call with House Democrats on Wednesday morning, Pelosi said the American people are worth the $2.2 trillion, according to two people on the call who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe the private discussion.
She also said state and local aid and legal liability protections continue to be obstacles to a deal. Republicans and the Trump administration favor liability protections that Democrats oppose, while opposing the state and local aid that Democrats want. The Democrats’ new bill has about $500 billion for state and local governments, about half as much as the original Heroes Act had.
“Let’s see if we can get a compromise agreement with the Speaker, something that works, and then we’ll continue to work with both sides on all the exact language and the policies,” Mnuchin said earlier.
The negotiations on state and local aid center on three pots of money: education aid, which Republicans support; general money for revenue shortfalls, which many Republicans oppose; and funding to increase the federal share of state Medicaid spending, which Democrats are demanding but is a tough sell for the GOP, according to a person with knowledge of the talks who spoke on condition of anonymity to describe them.
MILLIONS UNEMPLOYED
Congress passed four bills totaling an unprecedented $3 trillion in aid in the spring, but since then the bipartisan urgency that existed at the beginning of the pandemic has dissipated and the Senate has not passed a related bill. Talks involving Mnuchin and Pelosi collapsed in August and were renewed a few days ago.
Millions of people remain unemployed, and deaths from the coronavirus continue to mount, but the Trump administration continues to sound bullish about the economy.
“The economy is doing much better than anyone expected,” Mnuchin said Wednesday. “You’ve seen a very good rebound, and you’re going to see a very good quarter,” he said, while contending that “more fiscal response will help the economy.”
Stephen Moore, an outside economic adviser to the White House, said he told President Donald Trump at a meeting at the White House about 10 days ago that a stimulus deal would do little to boost the president’s electoral prospects. Moore said he told the president that the benefits of any stimulus deal reached now would not boost the economy until 2021 or December at the earliest.
“I told him, ‘Mr. President, there’s no deal you can get that will help the economy before the election,’” Moore said.
Still, depending on the timing of a new deal, it is conceivable that Trump’s administration could still send out millions of stimulus checks before the election. The IRS sent payments to as many as 80 million households within two weeks after the passage of the Coronavirus Aid, Relief and Economic Security (CARES) Act in March.
STOPGAP SPENDING BILL
Separately Wednesday, the Senate voted 84-10 to approve a stopgap spending bill to avert a government shutdown at midnight, when the 2020 fiscal year ends and agency funding would expire without spending allocations.
The legislation — called a continuing resolution — would keep every federal agency running at current funding levels through Dec. 11.
The House already passed the bill, so the Senate’s action sends it to Trump, who was expected to sign it into law before the midnight deadline.
The measure also extends many programs whose funding or authorizations lapsed Wednesday, including the federal flood insurance program, highway and transit programs, and a long set of extensions of various health programs, such as a provision to prevent Medicaid cuts to hospitals that serve many poor people.
It also finances the possible transition to a new administration if Joe Biden wins the White House and would stave off an unwelcome covid-caused increase in Medicare Part B premiums for outpatient doctor visits.
Farm interests won language that would permit Trump’s farm bailout to continue without fear of interruption. In exchange, House Democrats won $8 billion in food aid for the poor.
“We made a lot of progress over the last few days. We still don’t have an agreement, but we have more work to do. And we’re going to see where we end up.”
— Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin