Orlando Sentinel

Chairman: ‘It’s possible’ Trump team picked up in surveillan­ce

President says he feels ‘somewhat’ vindicated

- By Karoun Demirjian

WASHINGTON — House Intelligen­ce Committee Chair Devin Nunes went to the White House on Wednesday afternoon to personally brief President Donald Trump about intelligen­ce he says he has seen regarding surveillan­ce of foreign nationals — including possibly the president — during the presidenti­al transition.

“What I’ve read seems to me to be some level of surveillan­ce activity, perhaps legal. I don’t know that it’s right,” Nunes said to reporters outside the White House. “I don’t know that the American people would be comfortabl­e with what I’ve read.

“The president needs to know these intelligen­ce reports are out there,” he added. “I think the president is concerned, and he should be.”

Trump was asked if he felt vindicated after Nunes’s visit in his claims that he was wiretapped during the campaign at his Trump Tower headquarte­rs by President Barack Obama’s administra­tion.

That claim has been roundly rejected by members of the intelligen­ce community, including FBI Director James Comey and even Nunes himself, who again rejected the wiretappin­g allegation on Wednesday outside of the White House.

“I somewhat do. I must tell you I somewhat do,” Trump said following Nunes’s visit. “I very much appreciate­d the fact that they found what they found. I somewhat do.”

Before heading to the White House, Nunes said he briefed House Speaker Paul Ryan, R-Wis., on what he learned, and he also spoke with reporters. He stated that U.S. intelligen­ce agencies may have picked up communicat­ions involving President Trump as part of courtappro­ved surveillan­ce of foreign intelligen­ce targets in the period between Trump’s election and his inaugurati­on.

Nunes, R-Calif., told reporters that Trump was one of various members of the Trump team whose communicat­ions probably were intercepte­d through “incidental collection,” or surveillan­ce of the communicat­ions of foreign nationals who may be in contact with or talking about U.S. citizens.

Nunes said the situation will be clarified after he receives a full list of American citizens who were “unmasked” during the surveillan­ce. He said he expects to receive such informatio­n by Friday from the National Security Agency, the FBI and the CIA.

The House Intelligen­ce Committee chairman made the statements two days after a public hearing of his panel on Monday where Comey publicly rejected Trump’s allegation­s that he had been wiretapped by Obama during the campaign.

Outside of the White House on Wednesday, Nunes confirmed his opinion that Trump was not wiretapped in the sense the president meant with his March 4 tweet.

But he did suggest Trump could have been caught up in incidental collection — or legal surveillan­ce of the communicat­ions of foreign nationals who may be in contact with U.S. citizens. He signaled that the intelligen­ce community may have, in his mind, included certain names in their reports that did not belong there.

“The reason that we do this and that we have all these procedures in place is to protect American citizens,” Nunes said, adding that there is a “certain threshold met to make it into intelligen­ce products.”

“Maybe they didn’t meet the minimum qualificat­ions. There are things to me that don’t reach the level of intelligen­ce value. You have to ask yourself why did they end up in intelligen­ce reports.”

Nunes would not disclose his source, but said that he is confident that the informatio­n he received is official and from the intelligen­ce community.

“From what I know right now, it looks like incidental collection,” Nunes said. “We don’t know exactly how that was picked up, but we’re trying to get to the bottom of it.”

He added that “it’s possible” that Trump’s personal communicat­ions were captured that way by the U.S. intelligen­ce community.

Nunes stressed that he has no informatio­n that Russia had anything to do with the surveillan­ce. The Intelligen­ce panel — along with the FBI — is investigat­ing Russia’s alleged interferen­ce in the 2016 presidenti­al campaign and the suspected ties of Trump’s associates to the Kremlin.

White House press secretary Sean Spicer said that Nunes was headed to the White House on Wednesday afternoon to brief the president. Spicer said he did not know anything more about the matter than what Nunes had just said on Capitol Hill.

“He briefed the media before he briefed us,” Spicer said at his daily news briefing, adding, “Hopefully, we can share more” after the meeting.

It is not unusual for U.S. citizens to be caught up in the surveillan­ce of foreign nationals by the intelligen­ce community, and it does not mean that anything untoward occurred. Trump has alleged that President Barack Obama’s administra­tion wiretapped Trump Tower during the presidenti­al campaign. That charge was denied by Comey when he testified before the House Intelligen­ce Committee on Monday.

The intelligen­ce chairman is the first high-ranking lawmaker to assert that intelligen­ce agencies may have picked up conversati­ons between Trump and foreign nationals.

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