Orlando Sentinel

Trump’s chief strategist Steve Bannon contradict­s the president and says there’s no military solution to the threat posed by North Korea and its nuclear ambitions.

Bannon also calls Va. white supremacis­ts ‘clowns’ in interview

- By Derek Hawkins

Steve Bannon, the White House chief strategist, seemed to take issue with President Donald Trump on North Korea, attacked white supremacis­ts as “clowns” and “losers” and described his efforts against administra­tion rivals in an unusual interview Wednesday with The American Prospect, a progressiv­e magazine.

The interview with magazine co-editor and columnist Robert Kuttner was initiated by Bannon, Kuttner said, in an Anthony Scaramucci-style phone call in response to a column Kuttner had written on China.

“Bannon was in high spirits when he phoned me Tuesday afternoon to discuss the politics of taking a harder line with China, and minced no words describing his efforts to neutralize rivals at the Department­s of Defense, State and Treasury,” wrote Kuttner. “‘They’re wetting themselves,’ he said, proceeding to detail how he would oust some of his opponents at State and Defense.”

On North Korea, Bannon said: “Until somebody solves the part of the equation that shows me that 10 million people in Seoul don’t die in the first 30 minutes from convention­al weapons, I don’t know what you’re talking about, there’s no military solution here, they got us.’ ” Seoul is the capital of South Korea, which North Korea has threatened.

That comment seemed at odds with Trump’s “fire and fury” threats to use military force against North Korea.

On China, Bannon told Kuttner that the United States was at “economic war” and warned that “one of us is going to be a hegemon in 25 or 30 years and it’s gonna be them if we go down this path,” according to the article.

“On Korea, they’re just tapping us along. It’s just a sideshow,” he said.

Kuttner also asked Bannon to comment on the deadly white supremacis­t rally in Charlottes­ville, Va., last weekend and Trump’s reluctance to condemn the participan­ts. “Ethno-nationalis­m — it’s losers. It’s a fringe element,” Bannon told the magazine. “I think the media plays it up too much, and we gotta help crush it, you know, eh, help crush it more.”

“These guys are a collection of clowns,” he added.

A White House spokeswoma­n said “Bannon’s comments stand on their own.”

In a separate interview with the DailyMail.com, Bannon said his comments to The American Prospect “drew fire away from” Trump and that he successful­ly “changed the (media) narrative” around Trump with the earlier interview.

The remarks were surprising coming from Bannon, who spent more than four years running the farright website Breitbart News before he was tapped to join Trump’s campaign.

Bannon, the site’s former executive chair, has called the Breitbart “a platform of the alt-right,” a political grouping or tendency mixing racism, white nationalis­m, anti-Semitism and populism.

It was his strategy to use the site to channel white supremacis­t support for Trump and provide a mouthpiece for his populist message during the 2016 election, a move that helped secure him a senior role in the administra­tion.

In the wake of the violence in Charlottes­ville, which left a counterpro­tester dead and 19 injured, civil rights leaders have called on Trump to fire Bannon over his ties to the white nationalis­t community, as The Washington Post has reported.

Asked Tuesday if he still had confidence in his chief strategist, Trump deflected. “We’ll see what happens with Mr. Bannon,” he said.

When the conversati­on turned to race and the events in Charlottes­ville, Bannon dodged questions about his role in cultivatin­g the alt-right, according to The American Prospect article. He also faulted Democrats for focusing on identity politics.

“The longer they talk about identity politics, I got ’em,” he said. “I want them to talk about racism every day. If the left is focused on race and identity, and we go with economic nationalis­m, we can crush the Democrats.”

 ?? OLIVIER DOULIERY/ABACA PRESS ?? Steve Bannon was quoted by The American Prospect as saying that “there’s no military solution” to North Korea.
OLIVIER DOULIERY/ABACA PRESS Steve Bannon was quoted by The American Prospect as saying that “there’s no military solution” to North Korea.

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