Deputy AG mulled recording Trump
Deputy AG denies report, but uproar fuels job uncertainty
Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein suggested taping President Donald Trump, according to sources.
WASHINGTON — Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein discussed secretly recording President Donald Trump last year amid law enforcement concerns about chaos in the White House, according to people familiar with exchanges at the time.
But one person who was present said Rosenstein was being sarcastic.
Rosenstein’s comments were first reported by The New York Times, which also said that he raised the idea of using the 25th Amendment to remove Trump as unfit for office.
The reports create even greater uncertainty for Rosenstein in his position at a time when Trump has lambasted Justice Department leadership and publicly humiliated the deputy attorney general and Attorney General Jeff Sessions.
More broadly, it’s the latest revelation that could affect Robert Mueller, the special counsel investigating possible coordination between Russia and Trump’s presidential campaign in 2016. Sessions recused himself from that issue soon after he took office, to Trump’s dismay, and Rosenstein then appointed Mueller.
With all that hanging in the air, Trump has resisted calls from conservative commentators to fire Sessions and Rosenstein and appoint someone who would ride herd more closely on Mueller or dismiss him.
The reported conversation about possibly secretly recording the president took place at a tense May 2017 meeting during the tumultuous period that followed Trump’s firing of FBI Director James Comey, a decision that upset many agents and that the White House said was based on the Justice Department’s recommendation.
Among the participants at the meeting was Andrew McCabe, the FBI official temporarily elevated to director after Comey’s firing and who documented conversations with senior officials, including Rosenstein, in memos that have been provided to Mueller as part of his investigation.
The interactions lay bare the conflicts within the FBI and Justice Department early in the Trump administration after Rosenstein, just weeks into his job, wrote a memo critical of Comey’s handling of the Hillary Clinton email server investigation that the White House used as justification for firing the FBI director.
Friday’s news reports threatened to cloud Rosenstein’s fate at the Justice Department, with some conservatives calling for him to be fired immediately. Any dismissal could affect Mueller’s Russia probe given that Rosenstein oversees Mueller’s work.
Trump, for his part, pledged at a rally Friday in Springfield, Mo., to rid the Justice Department of its “lingering stench.”
It was difficult to discern the precise context for his comments and how they were intended.
The Justice Department released an email from one attendee who said Rosenstein’s “statement was sarcastic and was never discussed with any intention of recording a conversation with the president.”
Rosenstein called the Times story “inaccurate and factually incorrect.”
“I will not further comment on a story based on anonymous sources who are obviously biased against the department and are advancing their own personal agenda. But let me be clear about this: Based on my personal dealings with the president, there is no basis to invoke the 25th Amendment.”
Despite saying he would have no further comment, Rosenstein on Friday evening said in a statement: “I never pursued or authorized recording the President and any suggestion that I have ever advocated for the removal of the President is absolutely false.”
One of the people briefed on the conversation in question, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said it occurred during a moment of frustration between McCabe and Rosenstein.
Rosenstein was rankled by the revelation that Comey had kept memos about his interactions with the president; McCabe wanted a more aggressive approach toward the White House, the person said.
At that point, Rosenstein said to McCabe something to the effect of, “What do you want, you want me to wear a wire?” according to the person. Rosenstein was then asked if he was serious, and he said yes, but he did not mean for the wire comment to be taken seriously as a tactic to investigate the president, the person said.
The person also said that a memo from McCabe describes Rosenstein as referencing the 25th Amendment to the Constitution, which spells out that a president can be declared “unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office” upon a majority vote of the vice president and the Cabinet.
But the person said notes from other attendees at the meeting, including former FBI lawyer Lisa Page, do not mention the 25th Amendment.