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Jan. 6 panel weighs whether to subpoena GOP lawmakers

- By Mary Clare Jalonick, Farnoush Amiri and Eric Tucker

WASHINGTON — Republican leader Kevin McCarthy’s refusal to provide informatio­n to a bipartisan House committee about his call with then-President Donald Trump during the Capitol riot is deepening a standoff between the committee and GOP lawmakers, forcing investigat­ors to consider whether they could subpoena one of their own.

McCarthy joined two other Trump allies — Reps. Jim Jordan of Ohio and Scott Perry of Pennsylvan­ia — in rejecting the panel’s requests for interviews and documents. McCarthy, R-Calif., decried the committee as an “abuse of power” and said he had little to offer.

There is “nothing that I can provide” to the committee, he said, as it investigat­es what Trump was doing inside the White House, and his state of mind, as hundreds of his supporters violently pushed past law enforcemen­t in an insurrecti­on that temporaril­y halted the congressio­nal certificat­ion of Democrat Joe Biden’s White House win.

The stand by the three GOP lawmakers has left the committee of seven Democrats and two Republican­s with a choice: take the extraordin­ary step of subpoenain­g their own colleagues or allow the requests, and the defiance of their work, to go unanswered.

The committee’s leaders, Chairman Bennie Thompson, D-Miss., and Vice Chairwoman Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., have said they are prepared to subpoena any witness crucial to the investigat­ion. But privately, committee members are wrestling over the potential legal and political

complicati­ons of such a move. While congressio­nal ethics committees have the authority to subpoena lawmakers, there is little modern precedent for another committee doing so.

Thompson said in December that there is uncertaint­y over whether such a subpoena could be enforced because of the speech and debate clause of the Constituti­on, which says members of Congress “shall not be questioned in any other place” for their words in either House.

“I doubt it, because of the speech and debate clause,” Thompson said. “There is no precedent to force that compliance.”

Still, the committee has not ruled it out.

The committee has publicly subpoenaed about 50 other witnesses and many others privately.

McCarthy has acknowledg­ed the call with Trump on Jan. 6, 2021, which happened as Trump’s supporters were beating police outside the Capitol and forcing their way into the building. But McCarthy has not shared many details. The committee requested informatio­n about his conversati­ons with Trump “before, during and after”

the riot.

Speaking to reporters Thursday, McCarthy said the conversati­on with Trump “was very short, advising the president what was happening here.”

The committee’s request also seeks informatio­n about McCarthy’s communicat­ions with then-White House chief of staff Mark Meadows and communicat­ions with Trump and White House staff in the week after the violence, including reports of a conversati­on that was “heated.”

In Wednesday’s letter, Thompson said the committee “must learn about how the President’s plans for January 6th came together, and all the other ways he attempted to alter the results of the election.

The committee acknowledg­ed the sensitive and unusual nature of its request as it proposed a meeting with McCarthy on either Feb. 3 or 4.

“The Select Committee has tremendous respect for the prerogativ­es of Congress and the privacy of its Members,” Thompson wrote. “At the same time, we have a solemn responsibi­lity to investigat­e fully the facts and circumstan­ces of these events.”

 ?? AMANDA ANDRADE-RHOADES/AP ?? House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy is refusing a request by the House panel investigat­ing the U.S. Capitol insurrecti­on to submit to an interview.
AMANDA ANDRADE-RHOADES/AP House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy is refusing a request by the House panel investigat­ing the U.S. Capitol insurrecti­on to submit to an interview.

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