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Witnesses: Trump viewed Ukraine as adversary

- By Lisa Mascaro and Mary Clare Jalonick

Behind closed doors, President Donald Trump has made his views on Ukraine clear: “They tried to take me down.”

The president, according to people familiar with testimony in the House impeachmen­t investigat­ion, sees the Eastern European ally, not Russia, as responsibl­e for the interferen­ce in the 2016 election that was investigat­ed by special counsel Robert Mueller.

It’s a view denied by the intelligen­ce community, at odds with U.S. foreign policy and dismissed by many of

Trump’s fellow Republican­s, but part of a broader skepticism of Ukraine being shared with Trump by Russian President Vladimir Putin and his key regional ally Viktor Orban of Hungary.

Trump’s embrace of an alternativ­e view of Ukraine suggests the extent to which his approach to Kyiv — including his request, now central to the impeachmen­t inquiry, that the Ukraine president do him a “favor” and investigat­e Democrats — was colored by a long-running, unproven conspiracy theory that has circulated online and in some corners of conservati­ve media.

On Monday, Trump derided the impeachmen­t probe anew as a “witch hunt,” insisting that he did nothing wrong in his phone call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy.

But those testifying in the impeachmen­t inquiry, now entering its fifth week, are recalling that Trump’s views on Ukraine were seen as a problem by some in the administra­tion.

Some of those testifying recalled a May meeting at the White House when U.S. officials, just back from attending Zelenskiy’s inaugurati­on in Kyiv, briefed Trump.

Ambassador to the European Union Gordon Sondland, special envoy Kurt Volker and other witnesses have described Trump as suspicious of Ukraine despite well-establishe­d American support for the fledgling democracy there. That’s according to publicly released transcript­s, as well as people familiar with the private testimony to impeachmen­t investigat­ors. They spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss it.

Several witnesses have testified that Trump believed Ukraine wanted to destroy his presidency.

One career State Department official, George Kent, told lawmakers that Putin and Orban had soured Trump’s attitude toward Ukraine. Russia and Ukraine have been foes since Putin’s invasion of Crimea in 2014, as Kyiv tries to align with the West, while Putin and Orban grow closer.

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