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TRUMP POSTS UNEDITED ‘60 MINUTES’ FOOTAGE

President abruptly walked out of the interview Tuesday

- BY MICHAEL M. GRYNBAUM & MAGGIE HABERMAN Grynbaum and Haberman write for The New York Times.

NEW YORK

President Donald Trump made good Thursday on a threat to post unfiltered footage from a “60 Minutes” interview he taped earlier this week with anchor Lesley Stahl — an interview that Trump abruptly cut short, complainin­g that Stahl was “negative” and biased.

In posting the 38-minute clip on Facebook, Trump urged viewers to “look at the bias, hatred and rudeness on behalf of 60 Minutes and CBS.” But the footage shows Stahl, a “60 Minutes” correspond­ent since 1991, calmly and firmly asking the president about the coronaviru­s and other topics as Trump grows increasing­ly irritated.

At the start of the footage on Facebook, the president suggests that Stahl was not being “fair,” before proceeding to complain about her inquiries on the economy and the rising numbers of coronaviru­s cases in more than 40 states.

“You brought up a lot of questions that were inappropri­ately brought up, right from the beginning,” Trump says.

“Don’t you think you should be accountabl­e to the American people?” Stahl replies.

The interview is scheduled to air on Sunday’s episode of “60 Minutes,” which

will also feature an interview with Trump’s Democratic opponent, Joe Biden. CBS News called the president’s pre-emption “unpreceden­ted” and a breach of its agreement with the White House.

This “will not deter ‘60 Minutes’ from providing its full, fair and contextual reporting, which presidents have participat­ed in for decades,” the network said in a statement, noting that the White House’s recording of the interview had been intended “for archival purposes only.”

Stahl, a veteran newscaster who had interviewe­d Trump two other times since he won the presidency, sounds taken aback after the president stands up and ends the interview prematurel­y, telling his aides, “That’s enough. Let’s go. Let’s go.” In an exchange taped immediatel­y afterward, Stahl asks Vice President Mike Pence, “So what just happened with the pres

ident?”

“Lesley, uh, President Trump is a man who speaks his mind,” Pence replies. “I think it’s one of the great streng ths that he’s had as president.”

Stahl’s interview with Pence — also posted online Thursday by the White House — grows tense as she presses him on why he is evading some of her questions.

“This was not a rally, this was not just a campaign speech to the public — this was supposed to be an interview, and the same with the president,” Stahl says. “And I feel that you both have insulted ‘60 Minutes’ and me by not answering any of our questions.”

Pence objects, claiming that he did respond. Before the footage ends, Pence says: “Lesley, I appreciate the speech you just gave, and I’ve answered your questions and I’ve talked about what the American people care about.”

As a tactical matter, Trump’s decision to release the video hours before his final debate with Biden was curious, given that it could provide insight into how he might answer certain policy questions. In the interview, Trump tells Stahl that he wants the Supreme Court to abolish the Affordable Care Act, saying: “I hope that they end it; it’ll be so good if they end it.”

Pressed by Stahl on how he would handle a scenario in which millions of Americans abruptly lost their health insurance, Trump said repeatedly that he had “a plan.” When Stahl pointed out that he has not shown a plan publicly, Trump falsely claimed that he had.

Trump also said, falsely, that he had never said a version of “lock her up” about Gov. Gretchen Whitmer of Michigan, who was recently the target of a foiled kidnapping plot. In fact, after a crowd chanted “Lock her up” at a recent campaign rally in Michigan, Trump said, “Lock them all up.”

At another point, the president tried to raise issues about Biden’s son, Hunter, and his business dealings. When Stahl noted that it was Trump’s personal lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, and his former chief strategist, Stephen Bannon, who had pushed an unverified story to The New York Post, Trump claimed he didn’t know what the “two gentlemen” were doing.

 ?? CBS NEWS ?? President Donald Trump speaks with CBS correspond­ent Lesley Stahl in 2018.
CBS NEWS President Donald Trump speaks with CBS correspond­ent Lesley Stahl in 2018.

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