San Diego Union-Tribune

AMERICAN LEGION POST LEADER LOSES 2 NATIONAL POSITIONS

Escondido commander removed after online talk about violence, Proud Boys

- BY ANDREW DYER

An Escondido American Legion post commander has been removed by the veterans service organizati­on from two national leadership roles after he bragged on social media about participat­ing in a street brawl and joining the Proud Boys, the California state commander said Saturday.

Photos shared on two social media accounts show J.B. Clark Post 149 Commander Michael Sobczak, 56, wearing a Proud Boys jacket and marching along with other Proud Boys during a Dec. 12 pro-Trump rally in Washing ton, D.C., that eventually turned violent.

In a video shared on a personal Facebook account under the name “Mick Florio,” Sobczak describes a beating he says he gave an antiTrump activist in self defense during an earlier protest in Yorba Linda in Orange County.

The Southern Poverty Law Center classifies the Proud Boys as a hate group, and the Anti-Defamation League describes the organizati­on as a gang.

While some members of the group espouse White nationalis­t ideology, the Proud Boys are racially diverse and its leaders deny allegation­s of racism.

Sobczak has been removed from his position as dean of the American Legion College as well as a seat on the national board of the American Legion Riders, the organizati­on’s motorcycle club, said Ed Grimsley, the commander of the California American Legion.

“The American Legion has no room for hate in its membership, nor will we silently tolerate hate in any form,” Grimsley said in a statement. “It is no longer about free speech or simple political discourse, rather it morphs into an affront to both Legionnair­es and our communitie­s, states and nations.”

While the organizati­on removed Sobczak from national leadership roles, Grimsley said, due to the American Legion’s organizati­onal structure, it does not have the authority to remove him as post commander in Escondido. Instead, he said, it will be up to the members of the post to decide what to do locally.

“They will have to be the ones to start the process — it’s up to them now,” Grimsley said when reached by phone Saturday. “It’s a bad situation — I wish I could do more.”

American Legion positions are voluntary, Grimsley said.

Sobczak appears to be linked to two social media accounts — a Facebook account under the name “Mick Florio” and a Parler account under the name “Mickey Knuckles.”

Parler is an alternativ­e social networking app, similar to Twitter, that hosts many political conservati­ves and some who have been banned from other social media platforms.

Both accounts use profile pictures of Sobczak and shared several links to a motorcycle contest that Sobczak entered, including applicatio­ns filled out in his name.

The “Mickey Knuckles” Parler account also recently shared a photo of bloodied motorcycle knuckle gloves and a small wooden club with the caption: “My trophy tire thumper from Washington, D.C. The blood on the gloves isn’t mine.” The Union-Tribune reached Sobczak by phone Dec. 21. He declined to discuss the activities and posts documented on Facebook and other platforms. He did not deny writing the posts.

“What I do in my private life is private,” Sobczak said.

Much of what had been publicly shared on the social media accounts was removed or hidden after the Union-Tribune reached Sobczak for comment. Sobczak did not respond to further calls, texts and Facebook messages from a Union-Tribune reporter.

The Facebook and Parler accounts shared photos of Sobczak in Washing ton, D.C., including a screenshot of a photo from the New York Post, where he can be seen wearing a yellow beanie and a black and yellow Proud Boys jacket.

Another photo shows Sobczak sitting on a D.C. sidewalk wearing the same black jacket with the yellow Proud Boys logo.

Thousands of members of the Proud Boys and other conservati­ve groups traveled to the nation’s capital the weekend of Dec. 11 for rallies in support of Trump, who claims he lost to Biden due to unproven allegation­s of election fraud.

Members of the Proud Boys violently clashed with activists and counterpro­testers. There were four stabbings and 33 arrests, according to reports.

Some Black Lives Matter banners were removed from historical Black churches and burned in the streets, videos from the rally show. The national leader of the Proud Boys, Enrique Tarrio, recently admitted on his Parler account to burning one of the signs.

The Mickey Knuckles Parler account “echoed” Tarrio’s “parlay” on his own account.

On Parler, an echo is like retweeting a Twitter post.

On Facebook, the “Mick Florio” account shared a screenshot from a New York Post story featuring a photo of Proud Boys in Washington, D.C. In the photo, Sobczak can be seen in the same yellow beanie and black Proud Boys jacket.

“Heading home today,” the post said. “It was an eventful weekend and somehow my ugly mug managed to make the cover of the New York Post.”

The trip to Washington, D.C., was not Sobczak’s first foray into activism, according to videos shared on the Mick Florio Facebook account.

Sobczak was in Yorba Linda on Sept. 26 when proTrump demonstrat­ors clashed with liberal activists at a “March 4 Equality” event organized by a group called Caravan 4 Justice.

At the rally, one of the pro-Trump organizers drove a car through the crowd. Rita Turner, 40, was charged by the Orange County District Attorney with several felonies, including attempted murder, assault with a deadly weapon, mayhem and use of pepper spray by a felon.

Sobczak said in a video he uploaded to the Florio Facebook account that he witnessed Turner’s actions and was interviewe­d by law enforcemen­t.

In the same video, which has since been removed from the account, Sobczak boasted about being involved in a violent encounter with at least one protester.

“Yorba Linda, Yorba Linda, Yorba Linda — it was amazing,” he says. “Finally good to see some patriots who were just as pissed off as I was.”

In the video Sobczak describes in detail punching a young man and twisting his foot until he felt it pop and heard something tear.

“This kid with a black bandana on his head and a green bandana on his face went to throw a punch,” he says in the video.

“I hooked him, took him and brought him down to the ground, and while he was there popped him in the face three times. I do believe I broke two knuckles in the process of doing it.”

Sobczak lifts his hand to the camera to show bruising and blood on his knuckles.

“Then he went to kick me,” Sobczak added. “And when he kicked me I grabbed his foot and while still watching his kneecap, looking up at the stars, I was able to turn his foot completely around. I felt things pop. I heard things tear. He screamed like a little girl.”

Sobczak then holds up a black skull cap, which he says belonged to the protester.

“That’s my trophy,” he says. “I kept it.”

Photos and a grainy video of Sobczak’s confrontat­ion with the protester were also shared on the Facebook account. The Facebook post said the protester threw the first punch, but it’s not clear from the video who initiated the outburst.

“It was worth it, every moment of it,” Sobczak says in the video.

He also compliment­s Orange County sheriff ’s deputies for letting the two sides “go at it.”

The Orange County Sheriff ’s Department declined to comment on Sobczak’s account of the events.

“I can tell you that this incident is still under investigat­ion and in order to preserve the integrity of the investigat­ion, we will not be releasing the details of it,” said Sgt. Dennis Breckner, a department spokesman, in an email.

The day after the protest, a post on the Facebook account said Sobczak’s knuckles were not, in fact, broken.

“I can move my fingers today, so I figure it’s just a bruise,” the post said. “That means the knuckle gloves I was wearing did their job.”

The Florio Facebook account was a member of the Defend East County Facebook group, which had attracted more than 22,000 followers before it was deleted by Facebook in October.

Sobczak wore a “DEC” shirt to the Yorba Linda rally, photos from the event show.

According to a Facebook post, the Proud Boys have provided Sobczak something he has lacked since leaving the Marines in 2017.

“The PB’s (Proud Boys) filled a void in my life that was created when I retired from the military,” said one Facebook post that was later deleted.

Many other posts on the two social media accounts include right-wing conspiraci­es about the election, the COVID-19 vaccine and mask wearing and some notable events.

In one video a group of people sing the Star Spangled Banner before eating Thanksgivi­ng dinner at Sobczak’s home. At the end of the song, Sobczak, standing in his kitchen, reaches into his waistband and pulls out a handgun.

He smiles, holds the gun up, looks into the camera and says “Game on.”

Sobczak is still active in several Facebook groups that emerged after the Defend East County page was removed, recent posts viewed by the Union-Tribune show.

 ?? LUIS M. ALVAREZ AP ?? Supporters of President Trump wearing gear associated with the Proud Boys attend a rally in Washington, D.C., on Dec. 12.
LUIS M. ALVAREZ AP Supporters of President Trump wearing gear associated with the Proud Boys attend a rally in Washington, D.C., on Dec. 12.
 ?? SCREENSHOT ?? A post shared on social media platform Parler on an account linked to Michael Sobczak.
SCREENSHOT A post shared on social media platform Parler on an account linked to Michael Sobczak.
 ?? SCREENSHOT ?? Michael Sobczak in another Parler post.
SCREENSHOT Michael Sobczak in another Parler post.

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