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SPECIAL COUNSEL SUBPOENAS PENCE

Testimony sought in probe of Trump’s role in Capitol riot

- BY JOSH DAWSEY & PERRY STEIN Dawsey and Stein write for The Washington Post.

Former Vice President Mike Pence received a subpoena from the special counsel investigat­ing key aspects of the sprawling probe into the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol and former President Donald Trump’s efforts to overturn the election, according to a person familiar with the matter.

Jack Smith — the special counsel appointed by Attorney General Merrick Garland to lead the day-to-day operations of the investigat­ion — is also heading a separate criminal probe into Trump’s possible mishandlin­g of classified documents at his Florida home.

The Pence subpoena is related to Jan. 6, according to the person familiar with the matter, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss it publicly. The subpoena comes after months of negotiatio­ns between the Justice Department and Pence.

ABC News first reported news of the subpoena. A spokespers­on for the special counsel declined to comment. A spokespers­on for Pence also declined to comment.

Pence becomes the highest-level person in Trump’s orbit publicly known to be subpoenaed as part of the investigat­ion, and the move is the latest indication that the extensive probe is pushing forward. It could pit two potential presidenti­al candidates

against each other; Trump has launched his campaign for the 2024 Republican nomination, and Pence is considered a potential challenger.

It is unclear whether Pence will comply with the subpoena. His advisers had previously said he was not interested in appearing before the congressio­nal committee investigat­ing the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol. Pence has told people privately that he has concerns about testifying against Trump because of executive

privilege, according to the person familiar with the matter.

Pence is presumably the only witness to one-on-one conversati­ons he had with Trump, and prosecutor­s may feel they need to, at a minimum, attempt to get his version of events under oath.

The court-issued inquiry to Pence comes as Smith’s probe has been intensifyi­ng. In December, a grand jury issued a wide-ranging subpoena to Trump campaign officials, asking questions about Jan. 6 and who was

footing their legal bills, The Washington Post previously reported.

The Post also reported that subpoenas were received in late November and December by local and state election officials in states that President Joe Biden narrowly won and where Trump and his allies claimed there was fraud.

During the attack on the Capitol, many rioters chanted “Hang Mike Pence!” because they were angry that Pence didn’t use his position to help overturn the results of

the 2020 election.

As the insurrecti­on was unfolding, Trump tweeted that Pence “didn’t have the courage to do what should have been done.”

Pence has offered an account of his version of what occurred and how he has viewed Trump’s actions that day in “So Help Me God,” his book issued late last year, and his interviews promoting it.

The former vice president publicly suggested that Trump got bad legal advice and downplayed the idea that he saw criminal conduct.

“Well, I don’t know if it is criminal to listen to bad advice from lawyers,” Pence told NBC last year. “The truth is, what the president was repeating is what he was hearing from that gaggle of attorneys around him. Presidents, just like all of us that have served in public life, you have to rely on your team, you have to rely on the credibilit­y of the people around you. And so, as time goes on, I hope we can move beyond this, beyond that prospect. And this is really a time when our country ought to be healing.”

In a separate matter, federal law enforcemen­t officials are in discussion­s with Pence’s legal team to perform a consensual search of his Indiana home to ensure there are no classified materials on his property, according to a person familiar with the matter who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss it publicly.

In late January, a lawyer for Pence said that the former vice president brought in outside counsel with experience handling classified materials to search records stored in his Indiana home “out of an abundance of caution” after news broke that materials were discovered at Biden’s properties.

The lawyer, Greg Jacob, said in a Jan. 18 letter to the National Archives that counsel “identified a small number of documents that could potentiall­y contain sensitive or classified informatio­n interspers­ed throughout the records.” Jacob said Pence was “ready and willing to cooperate fully.”

 ?? ERIN SCHAFF AP FILE ?? Vice President Mike Pence officiates as a joint session of the House and Senate convenes to confirm the Electoral College votes at the Capitol in Washington on Jan. 6, 2021.
ERIN SCHAFF AP FILE Vice President Mike Pence officiates as a joint session of the House and Senate convenes to confirm the Electoral College votes at the Capitol in Washington on Jan. 6, 2021.

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